Opinions on rope for flipline / lanyard

[Dadatwins]

Looking for some opinions on type of rope for flipline/ lanyard. I have used 5/8 three strand clipped on one end run through a hip prusik on the other in the past and was happy with it. Switched to beranek braided, same hip prusik setup with 9/16" braided but I was not so crazy about it, rope was tight when new but softened to quickly and locked in prusik and did not wear as well as three strand in my opinion. Not looking for wirecore and no gibbs, I like the hip prusik setup but looking for opinions of what rope to put through it. I am using 1/2" three strand for prusik.
Thanks.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Half inch or 7/16" static line is great. Super strong and light weight. Add an adjusting knot tied directly to your d-ring and use the d-ring as the slack tender. Cheap and really functional. Just about all of the climbers at work have converted to this system once they see it.

Tom

 

[BigJohn]

Im with you Brian a lanyard won't make you a better climber. Want to be a better climber go pruneing without one. I just use fly that I tie to a bulldog with a fishermans knot and connect it with VT to saddle.

For some big removals I have a long fly about 20 or more feet atatched to a gri gri.

I guess the static line looks cool and bit lighter.

 

[SteveBullman]

Originally posted by BigJohn
Im with you Brian a lanyard won't make you a better climber. Want to be a better climber go pruneing without one. I just use fly that I tie to a bulldog with a fishermans knot and connect it with VT to saddle.

For some big removals I have a long fly about 20 or more feet atatched to a gri gri.

I guess the static line looks cool and bit lighter.

 

[SteveBullman]

Originally posted by BigJohn
Im with you Brian a lanyard won't make you a better climber.

i'd have to disagree with you there. i've converted a few people in the past to using a descent flipline and their speed has improved immediately.

 

[SteveBullman]

whilst we're on the subject of lanyards, i was messing round the other day with a double ended line with a prussik in the middle. which was fine, but i missed not being able to slack tend one-handed.
anyone come up with a way of being able to slack tend from both directions?
also what methods do you guys use for tidying up the excess slack in your flipline when not using it.

 

[John Stewart]

Hey
I agree with Rocky but I would use a different color so you dont confuse the two
I like to know at a glance what rope is doing what
As for mechanical or friction knot for attachment I have both systems on different saddles
Use the micro assender if it is mechanical cause it adjusts easier than the others
Use a not like the Knut for a rope attachment as it will self adjust with out a micro pulley or biner behind it
Keep it simple
Later
John

 

[SteveBullman]

Originally posted by Tom Dunlap
Half inch or 7/16" static line is great. Super strong and light weight. Add an adjusting knot tied directly to your d-ring and use the d-ring as the slack tender. Cheap and really functional. Just about all of the climbers at work have converted to this system once they see it.

Tom

what knot you using them tom

 

[Dadatwins]

Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
I have never understood the need so many climbers have to buy a unique rope for their lanyard instead of just using the arborist rope they already own. If a rope is good enough to be your lifeline, why is it not good enough for a lanyard? Back when I was still using 'old school' methods, I used a 3-strand lanyard with the locking steel clips. Now I just use a piece of rope cut off a retired lifeline.

Heck, you can spend $150 or more on a fancy lanyard if you want, Sherrill will sell you one. It still won't make you a better climber though.

I use true blue for climbing, and would love to use it for laynard but it can not be spliced it into an end for a laynard clip. And no, I do not want to spend $150.00 on a custom made setup from sherrill's although I think even with their top of the line snaps/biners it would be hard to get to that point. I am only looking for opinion on some different rope choices since there are a lot of new ropes on the market and was hoping some had tried them out and had an opinion. I did a search on site and found a lot of the posts on this topic were a year or two old so I figured I would bring this up again and see if any new thoughts were around.

 

[John Stewart]

Ok
Dont use the Fly because is snags and picks to easy!
High V works great
True Blue gums up and stays that way more so than High V
I havent tried washing my old True Blue because the dude a the laundrymat would freak out when he heard my steel snap smashing around
John

 

[SteveBullman]

Originally posted by John Stewart
Ok
Dont use the Fly because is snags and picks to easy!
High V works great

all ropes pick to some extent. but as i see it with the fly being kermantle, all its strength is in its core so it matters less if this rope picks than a standard climbing rope

 

[rumination]

I used to use three strand for a lanyard, because I liked its durability and stiffness. However, I recently started using 16 strand climbing line, and have decided that I like it better. There's no need to buy a lanyard when you can make your own. Short bits of new rope can be bought cheaply, if you don't have any lying around.

For instance, I bought 50' of Safety Blue Hi-V for 20 bucks from this fellow:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11896&item=3828917135&rd=1


That's enought rope for at least two or three lanyards, depending how long you like them. Then all you need is some prusik cord and a rope snap/carabiner and you're set.

 

[John Stewart]

Ya good point!
It just pisses me off when I see it like that
You know it is important lookin fine at 100 ft and shabby equipment brings down your corperate image!
John

 

[SteveBullman]

i know what you mean, when i first got my nice bright fly rope and it started getting picks on my first climb i was gutted.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by John Stewart
when he heard my steel snap smashing around
John

When I wash my rope with the snap still on, I snap it to a couple beltloops on a pair of jeans. No problems, mate.

 

[lync]

flipline

15 ft piece of climbing line double fishermans loop to a steel safety snap. VT on the left hip 8mm accessory cord/micro pully/******. So cheap you can throw it away if it gets sapped out.

 

[BigJohn]

How is that you can be faster when your tied to the tree? You can't go far can ya? I couldn't see wanting to stay in one spot that long. What does one do that long in one spot take break? Thats not fair to everyone else working. We all like to break and lunch at the same time during the day.

Lanyards are for tieing in and working down a pole and competition.

 

[jkrueger]

Originally posted by BigJohn
How is that you can be faster when your tied to the tree? You can't go far can ya? I couldn't see wanting to stay in one spot that long. What does one do that long in one spot take break? Thats not fair to everyone else working. We all like to break and lunch at the same time during the day.

Lanyards are for tieing in and working down a pole and competition.

John,

Sometimes it is good to have another point to be steady, a strong work position, for chain saw, or man handling a branch, especially way out on a branch.

Think, I've even seen you do that.???

Jack

 

[BigJohn]

Shhhhh..............don't give away the secrets.

 

[MasterBlaster]

I can't imagine tossing my lanyard because it got sappy. I would just wash it that night.