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Mix oil brands-slight potential badjuju.
Low octane fuel-definite bad juju.
1970 regular gas in chainsaw okay,fine.
2000 A.D and later regular gas make saw get hot and fart out.
 
Stumper said:
Mix oil brands-slight potential badjuju.
Low octane fuel-definite bad juju.
1970 regular gas in chainsaw okay,fine.
2000 A.D and later regular gas make saw get hot and fart out.


The last one is what took me the longest to get through my mellon!!! Slowly changing my evil ways!
Andy
 
reformulated gas -1995

Here's an old bulletin to Stihl dealers from 1995... Note the 89 minimum back then... and the warnings... They've revised it a little since.

I have a new E10 (2006) bulletin that I'm trying to get in PDF form - very interesting...
 
Here's the latest: I started a new thread so more info in that one..

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Stihl Incorporated
Technical Information

Stihl Incorporated
Bulletin #DLR 2006-02
July 28, 2006


E10 Ethanol Fuel Guidelines
Contents
1. Gasoline Containing 10% Ethanol
2. Guidelines for Using E10 Gasoline
3. Summary



1. Gasoline Containing 10% Ethanol


Many areas of the country now have mandates in effect for oxygenated gasoline and are introducing gasoline that contains 10% ethanol, sometimes referred to as “E10 gasoline”. Users of STIHL power equipment are becoming concerned that these fuels will damage their equipment’s engine. With a minor amount of care and a little preventative maintenance, gasoline containing 10% ethanol can be used in STIHL power equipment. Oxygenated and E10 gasoline is designed to burn cleaner and reduce air pollutants. These fuels have been available in regional areas of the country for many years and are becoming more common throughout the United States.

2. Guidelines for Using E10 Gasoline
If the proper precautions are taken, gasoline containing a 10% quantity of ethanol should not generally cause a problem in STIHL products. The following simple precautions will help to avoid major engine damage when using today’s 10% ethanol blended gasoline in STIHL power equipment engines.

• Make sure the carburetor is adjusted properly for the fuel that is being used. Oxygenated gasoline and gasoline containing ethanol has a tendency to “lean out” the carburetor mixture when compared to non-oxygenated fuels. A slight carburetor adjustment may be needed.

• Use a good quality oil designed for use in air-cooled mix lubricated engines. All STIHL mix oils readily mix with gasoline containing 10% ethanol. STIHL HP Ultra fully synthetic mix oil is especially suitable for use with E10 gasoline.
• Keep your fuel fresh. Only buy enough gasoline that you can easily use up in a two-month time period.

• Shake your gas can well, not only when first mixing the oil, but also every time before you fill up your equipment. This is a good habit to get into and will help keep the oil well dispersed in the fuel.

• Properly store your equipment. If your equipment is not going to be used for 60 days or more, the remaining gasoline that is in the machine should be drained from the tank and properly disposed of. This will ensure that you will not have fuel going stale in the tank and gathering moisture.

• Water or condensation in a fuel storage can or the machine’s fuel tank can cause ethanol to separate from the gasoline/oil mix. If this occurs, the ethanol will settle to the bottom of the tank and will have little or no lubrication mixed with it. Using this separated mixture will cause overheating, engine running problems, piston seizures, or other major engine damage. It is important to keep a fresh mixture and to avoid getting water in the gasoline. If this occurs, the fuel should not be used and properly disposed of. Engine damage caused by water/moisture and separation of ethanol from the fuel/oil mixture is not covered by STIHL’s Limited Warranty Policy.

• Equipment should be checked over periodically by a STIHL dealer. Items such as fuel filters, tank lines, carburetor diaphragms, and spark plugs should be checked and replaced if necessary as part of a normal engine tune-up.

3. Summary
There are quite a few myths surrounding ethanol containing fuels. By following the guidelines previously mentioned, you can use gasoline that contains 10% ethanol in STIHL power equipment.

Gasoline containing higher than 10% ethanol content (e.g. 85% ethanol-E85) cannot be used in STIHL power equipment. Doing so will cause major engine damage and is not covered by STIHL’s Limited Warranty Policy.


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i'm a golf course superintendent, i have always used 87 octane w/all my mowers and 2-cycle machines due to the fact i have a 2000 gal tank at work. i can't tell my owner we must switch too super, thats just not possible. all my machines get run as hard as possible especially by the summer help which are usually high school or college kids. i don't know any other super that uses super gas(89 or above octane) for there machines. but i know most use high quility 2-cycle oil or brand name. i have had the same string trimmers, blowers and chainsaws for 8 years that run fine. the only thing that i learned quick is to make sure that the kids don't mix the oil. i do it or the mechanic does it. i do know that my mechanic will put in some sea foam motor treatment everytime he mixes a 5 gallon container and uses it as stabilizer in the winter. i know for a fact the high octane is better for the engine and in a perfect world i would order the high octane. in my industry though that will never happen. if its not broke then don't fix it.
 
This is possibly one of the oldest threads I've seen dredged up in awhile...

6 years old... with the last post 2 years ago... LMAO...

Plus it's my kinda thread... :laugh:

Gary

Gary, did you ever see the movie "Groundhog Day"? I hate to inform you, your 6 year rerun just started.
 
Wow, a Gypo Logger thread! :clap:

I recommend that one penny from every $10 sale of Gary's Own Oil will go to the Save the Gypo Logger Fund.
 
it's been awhile since gypo made an appearance.....

now that Stihl has all but changed over to synthetics... this old thread is still on the mark..
 
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it's been awhile since gypo made an appearance.....

now that Stihl has all but changed over to synthetics... this old thread is still on the mark..

I've never seen the Stihl HP ultra here in NZ, unless they now ONLY sell Ultra, hence it's not specifically labelled as such anymore.
 
Are you going to drag up ALL of the oil threads and attach this to them all?!?!?! Just send your info to Gary and be done with it!!!:buttkick:
 
Hmmm...

Holy smokes...I made my first post on page 2 of this thread..almost 7 years ago!


Back to your regularly scheduled program...
 
I got a little teary eyed when I saw it was your first...........

I remember my first too.........

She was pretty damn ugly too.......
 
Bad day..... Farrah and Michael both.......

Mike used to be an active member, back when he still owned "Neverland".

His username was "Treeclimber" something or other.....

He used to post a lot of "questionable" material.....
 

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