Pioneer chainsaws

[paul hill]

I was reading the info on the P series fuel caps swelling up and realized that's what I've had happen to a couple of them. I'm going to try the freezing technique and I'm glad I didn't throw away the old ones that swelled up.
Is there a way to keep the caps from swelling up in the first place?
What causes the swelling?
I've had some original ones swell at 30+ years old and the the replacement NOS one swelled in a year of very little use.

 

[Lou]

I think it may be Ethanol. The swelling on mine went away with time and no fuel contact. I too used a jewelers file to make mine fit while swelled. It isn't pretty but it works.

 

[Acornhill]

Yes it is the new fuel. Take the caps off the saws when not UN use

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[paul hill]

Good to know about the fuel causing the problems, thanks for the tips.

 

[Guido Salvage]

I keep all my P series and Pioneer based PP saws drained of fuel with the caps off to keep them from swelling.

 

[7hpjim]

I keep all my P series and Pioneer based PP saws drained of fuel with the caps off to keep them from swelling.

Same here

 

[pioneerman]

I have a Pioneer 400 with a Brown carb that needs a new kit. What are people doing to rebuild these as kits no longer seem to be available?

 

[pioneerguy600]

I have a Pioneer 400 with a Brown carb that needs a new kit. What are people doing to rebuild these as kits no longer seem to be available?

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[MGoBlue]

Hello! New to this thread... Last summer I finally asked for the old Pioneer. This saw belonged to a grandfather I never met. He passed long before I was born but the story goes... He bought this saw new and was one of the first in the area to own a chainsaw. My father can remember cutting wood with him using a large hand saw. He thought it was the cats meow when he got it. So it hasn't ran since I've been alive. I'd like to get it running, no full resto for me. I can't imagine I will use it very often. The reason I'm posting is for advice. Hoping someone has been in this situation before and can share the knowledge. Is there a carb rebuild kit I can order?
In the beginning of May there is a PA GTG & I'd love to be able to run it there.

 

[pioneerguy600]

They are really easy to get up and running especially if they don`t need any new parts. The carb kits are easily found, look for Tillotson HL rebuild kits. The complete rebuild kits are RK 88 HL and the soft parts only kits are DG 5 HL. available from any small engine shop or off eBay.

 

[MGoBlue]

Just ordered the full kit. Thanks! What kinda mix do I put in this thing, 40-50:1?

 

[pioneerguy600]

40:1 is what I run in mine, use good quality mix oil designed for chainsaws. I use 40:1 in all of my saws, old and newer, Stihl blue, Jonsered ,Husqvarana or whatever I pick up when out around the saw shops.

 

[rocketnorton]

nice, I wouldnt restore it either. theyre only original once... you got good history to go with it...

 

[pioneerguy600]

That saw is a nice example of a late model 610, it looks from the picts that it was built druing the last run before the 620 came out as it has a 620 front handle on it as well as a clutch cover that was destined for the first 620 run since I can see the white underpaint showing through the clutch cover, the early 620`s had the whiteish clutch cover.

 

[MGoBlue]

Can one of you point me in the direction to a new air filter for this saw?

 

[pioneerguy600]

Can one of you point me in the direction to a new air filter for this saw?

What airfilter is it running? There were at least 3 different ones that could be on it. Picts?

 

[67L36Driver]

And, some only qualify as trash strainers............................................................

 

[MGoBlue]

Looked like this one:

 

[pioneerguy600]

Looked like this one:

Yeah, it has the paper element Purolater type, they will cost you $20. plus shipping I know where there a few of them. PM sent.

 

[MGoBlue]

Carb is rebuilt and ready for the new filter, which is on the way. I pulled the glass fuel bowl, the gasket was brittle so i was thinking I could use a correct size o-ring, thoughts? Also, do I need to remove 2 screws to get the base off or just the internal one?