Pioneer chainsaws

[Perry pioneer]

Looks like an ra is the same.

 

[fossil]

Farmsaw II with blue coil.

If I understand it correctly, I can use the solid state coil from a Super EZ?

SXL-AO, Carl. I don't think its the same as a S-EZ.

The XL-1's used that blue coil as well. You will have to use the lamination from the coil from the saw you are trying to restore.

Some guys have had luck with baking the Prestolites to fix them. I think 325 deg F for 4 minutes in the oven was the procedure.

Not all SXLAO's have the blue coil. I just picked up a late SXLAO with a back module, Not sure what it is. I have clean to it up to see what it is.

 

[struggle]

Nice macsimizer!

There's always more room for tools.


Sent from somewhere

 

[pioneerguy600]

Looks like an ra is the same.View attachment 421704

The RA is the same, they are actually the first 600 but because they were sandcast mag bodied saws they were made by IEL just before the sellout and the resulting move to Peterborough Ontario. Once production was set up and started there the saws were then die cast using reusable molds to make the components. The new system changed from lettered models that IEL made to the numbered system Pioneer used throughout its lifespan, hence the new line of 600 series was started. The shroud from a RA will fit a 600 and 610 fine. There were a good number of replacement shrouds made for the 600 series saws but I could not find info on where they came from, I had 20 of them after cleaning out the Pioneer leftover stock from the local dealer, it did not take long before they were all gone but one that I still have and will keep just to see if I can determine who made and distributed them.

 

[MGoBlue]

Cool little snippet of info there. I think it's neat hearing these stories. I about brought my mother to tears showing her the video of me getting this old girl runnin'. It was her fathers saw and I guess a flood of memories came back. Can't hardly wait to get the shroud and a good chain and let mom and dad see it run in the flesh.

 

[pioneerguy600]

The 1958 Pioneer 600 was my dad`s first new chainsaw, I was with him when he picked it up. The mechanic started it up and tuned it a bit, I can still remember clearly watching that big saw bouncing on the bench snorting puffs of blue, the heavy thump of the exhaust note and the vibration that saw put on the bench. Memories like that is why I still own and maintain that saw and all the ones he owned after that. I still have every saw either one of us ever had for own personal saws, does my soul good knowing this.

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

And that's why you're one of the good guys around here and always will be.

 

[kz1000]

OVERLOAD!!! I had four p41's and a P51, did a trade last night and now have three more 51's, two are runners and one in a basket.

 

[Perry pioneer]

Dang kz I know this is the pioneer thread but you suck!... Seriously this is really cool, large p - series is what I want next. Don't know what you traded but cool deal two runners and a parts mobile you should be set....Perry

 

[torinocobra]

I am needing a topcover for a 750/850. I've got a couple parts saws of the same series but no useable topcovers. Paint condition doesn't matter, nor does cracks because I am re painting the whole saw and can have them welded up. I've got lots of stuff to trade, or cash. Thanks

 

[rocketnorton]

And that's why you're one of the good guys around here and always will be.

qtla.

 

[kz1000]

I live at 5620' and am always having people ask about compression on a saw, I never read over 120/125 and tired of seeing 195 claims. What would be the factory compression on a P61? I know that it is a 18% change for my altitude.

 

[fossil]

The repair manual says 155 psi for a P61

 

[pioneerguy600]

My lightly broken in 62 and 655 have 155 -157 cold and I am just barely above sealevel.

 

[kz1000]

I guess that I just need to buy a gauge for small engines, I've owned 100 saws and never pull those figures.

 

[pioneerguy600]

The correct gauge means about 25 lbs in the difference. The shortest hose between the gauge and the cylinder the better and of course the correct type of Schrader valve in the threaded fitting is necessary.

 

[kz1000]

Thanks for the info, I will start looking for a replacement. KZ

 

[Jon1212]

Delving into the Old Pioneer World. No sense going in light footed.

 

[kz1000]

Nice saw! Do you buy tools and lay them next to the saw for pictures? That crescent wrench doesn't even have a bent handle, let alone grease on it.

 

[Perry pioneer]

Nice old pioneer Jon, does it run good? Looks like it should. Two feet two hands looks heavy alright!