Pioneer chainsaws

[2stroke_shaman]

I know off topic . Was researching a Farmtec build and found this under ms 660 . If it was a little longer ...LOL

 

[p61 western]

I know off topic . Was researching a Farmtec build and found this under ms 660 . If it was a little longer ...LOL

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Lol and probably not a tree in sight.

 

[2stroke_shaman]

Unless your into redwoods or the ones they dig for in New Zealand. Probly not. They have some old stuff. Ill post info after I pick a little .

 

[Cookie]

Got the Farmsaw on the bench over the weekend. Wanted to tear it down and clean it up, didn’t expect to find many surprises as it seemed to run strong. Well..wrong. Looked in the tank and found black goo death. Melted old fuel line ? Or broken down mix? Nasty either way and a pain to clean out. Ended up doing all new fuel line and filter, carb kit and needed a choke pull grommet. Oh abs decompression valve gummed up and not working. All put back together and running like a top. Skinny little 18 inch bar looks silly on it tho. Gunna have to find something a little more stout I think.

 

[2stroke_shaman]

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Got the Farmsaw on the bench over the weekend. Wanted to tear it down and clean it up, didn’t expect to find many surprises as it seemed to run strong. Well..wrong. Looked in the tank and found black goo death. Melted old fuel line ? Or broken down mix? Nasty either way and a pain to clean out. Ended up doing all new fuel line and filter, carb kit and needed a choke pull grommet. Oh abs decompression valve gummed up and not working. All put back together and running like a top. Skinny little 18 inch bar looks silly on it tho. Gunna have to find something a little more stout I think.

I just located some Pioneer 24" .375 bars. Would that beef it up ?

 

[p61 western]

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Got the Farmsaw on the bench over the weekend. Wanted to tear it down and clean it up, didn’t expect to find many surprises as it seemed to run strong. Well..wrong. Looked in the tank and found black goo death. Melted old fuel line ? Or broken down mix? Nasty either way and a pain to clean out. Ended up doing all new fuel line and filter, carb kit and needed a choke pull grommet. Oh abs decompression valve gummed up and not working. All put back together and running like a top. Skinny little 18 inch bar looks silly on it tho. Gunna have to find something a little more stout I think.

Look's great glad to hear it's running good as well.

 

[2stroke_shaman]

As i assemble this I wonder why would the intake be open and the exhaust be restricted . RPM control? Thoughts?

 

[Walter Glover]

Intake never sees the rings
Exhaust must provide support for rings as they go by up and down

 

[p61 western]

As i assemble this I wonder why would the intake be open and the exhaust be restricted . RPM control? Thoughts?
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I delete the dividers on the 4 and 5 cube p series, but maybe not so much on the older saws like that.

 

[Cookie]

Calling all pioneer nuts. I’ve got a little holiday 1100w here, found it in a scrap pile years ago. Threw a kit in it and cleaned the grime off and it, fired right up. I’m assuming these are suppose to be all white with a black handle? This ones got yellow parts aswell on it, been replaced at some point I’m guessing ?

 

[2stroke_shaman]

Intake never sees the rings
Exhaust must provide support for rings as they go by up and down

Seems if they would have pinned the piston for the rings to stay they could of opened that up more . I could see the ring spit causing serious problems if it hooked I have some Kawi triple bikes and only the oldest one has a bridged exhaust port.

 

[fossil]

Calling all pioneer nuts. I’ve got a little holiday 1100w here, found it in a scrap pile years ago. Threw a kit in it and cleaned the grime off and it, fired right up. I’m assuming these are suppose to be all white with a black handle? This ones got yellow parts aswell on it, been replaced at some point I’m guessing ?

Apparently one of the three versions (W, Y, and G) of that Holiday was yellow. They share parts in most areas with the 11-XX saws.

As near as I can tell. the largest diff between the W, Y, and G is the paint on the Y. same with the smallest diff.

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

I have one a guy tried turning into a Homelite. Painted it all red. Wish I had a pic handy.

 

[leecopland]

Y = yellow

W = white

G = Green

Maybe?

 

[Cookie]

Y = yellow

W = white

G = Green

Maybe?

I put that together. Just trying to figure why my handle is yellow.

 

[fossil]

Y = yellow

W = white

G = Green

Maybe?

Nope, White, yellow, white.

I have one a guy tried turning into a Homelite. Painted it all red. Wish I had a pic handy.

They are so close to an XL-12 except for 4 more cc in the Pioneer. The XL-12 was likely the most copied saw ever.

 

[Cookie]

That exhaust stack is nice and throaty to

 

[Hoggwood]

Y = yellow

W = white

G = Green

Maybe?

Seems that they should have used an M designation for some of the yellow paint they used. Something along the lines of, "Yellow out of the paint factory, but flakes away to bare magnesium in no time".

 

[Hoggwood]

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Got the Farmsaw on the bench over the weekend. Wanted to tear it down and clean it up, didn’t expect to find many surprises as it seemed to run strong. Well..wrong. Looked in the tank and found black goo death. Melted old fuel line ? Or broken down mix? Nasty either way and a pain to clean out. Ended up doing all new fuel line and filter, carb kit and needed a choke pull grommet. Oh abs decompression valve gummed up and not working. All put back together and running like a top. Skinny little 18 inch bar looks silly on it tho. Gunna have to find something a little more stout I think.

I've managed to pick up a few clean Farmsaws in the valley here. Similar story on them all. Homeowner saws that saw little action and then were shelved for 30+ years.

I never tire of hearing that story.

 

[Cookie]

I've managed to pick up a few clean Farmsaws in the valley here. Similar story on them all. Homeowner saws that saw little action and then were shelved for 30+ years.

I never tire of hearing that story.

Where in the valley are you Cory ?