Pioneer chainsaws

[p61 western]

Pioneer 600 a. I reduced the gasket material to raise compression . Now I have this problem . The squish is to low at the arrow .010 should i take a little off that surface ? Im thinkin the advance might do it good with a piston trim to clear things.
Old piston worked over cyl new rings .
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If that's the only tight spot a little off the piston isn't going to hurt it for sure. That gasket looked great btw.

 

[2stroke_shaman]

I agree the trim on the piston is minimal and the benifit of the whole piston closer is measureable . Thank yor Sir .

 

[Cookie]

Can anyone tell me how many DL for 36 inch pioneer bar ? Any help would be dandy. Thanks

 

[Beavers]

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Can anyone tell me how many DL for 36 inch pioneer bar ? Any help would be dandy. Thanks

My Guess would be 119 DL

 

[Beavers]

P60 Specs Piston Ring Gap is .090" / .120", Two thin tool steel compression rings- captive against rotation.

l thought l would post the specs for those who found the info helpful.

 

[Beavers]

l am currently working on this HC Model . lt is slow going. thought l would share some pics.

 

[Cookie]

l am currently working on this HC Model . lt is slow going. thought l would share some pics.

Wow. Beautiful work

 

[PogoInTheWoods]

Ditto.

 

[p61 western]

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Can anyone tell me how many DL for 36 inch pioneer bar ? Any help would be dandy. Thanks

Not sure if it's a odd driver count, but standard 36 is 115 drivers.

 

[Cookie]

I was thinkin 115 sounded about right to.

 

[Lou]

The carpenter in me says I can always make it shorter... I've been looking for a board stretcher for 68 years.
I have a 24" Oregon (FarmSaw) and a 24" Carlton (Husqvarna) that both use 81 drive links. It was a selling point for the Husky.
Lou

 

[2stroke_shaman]

Possible addition . Deal struck but on 8-19 at a meet . Never count them unless you can see them !

 

[ML12]

So I've got a front wrap handle bar for my 17XX saw that has a bunch of rust on it. I'd like to put a rubber coating over the rusted area similar to a modern saw. The issue is that the wrap handle is a solid loop (welded at the bottom), so I can't slide anything onto it, like one could typically do with a modern saw.

I was thinking of using plasti-dip, but its not good with gasoline. Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

[Lou]

Shooting from the hip... Perhaps a few heat shrink sleeves but they won't work on a closed loop.
I haven't used any but the adds for Flex seal https://www.getflexseal.com/Flex-Seal-FAQ.dtm look promising.

 

[fossil]

Or bed liner. I would test any liquid application to make sure they are gas and oil proof or black hands might result.

 

[2stroke_shaman]

I tried flex seal on the tops of mobil tooling carts at work to keep things from sliding off . Worked great for a bit till oil and solvent got on it and sat . Then goo. I think the shrink wrap and a cut weld on the full wrap is the answer. Put on extra before shrinking, weld grind and shrink cover a little at a time . Cut to fit .

 

[Lou]

I tried flex seal on the tops of mobil tooling carts at work to keep things from sliding off . Worked great for a bit till oil and solvent got on it and sat . Then goo. I think the shrink wrap and a cut weld on the full wrap is the answer. Put on extra before shrinking, weld grind and shrink cover a little at a time . Cut to fit .

Please be careful... I used heat shrink tubing on many wire bundles during my military career. More than once the heat used while soldering caused an early shrink. In cases like that silicone, self-bonding tape saved my bacon. I don't think that would look proper on the full wrap and any cuts grow very quickly. The second problem with self-bonding tape is when individual wires inside a bundle that are insulated with it, they bond to a completed wire bundle wrap and one another. it becomes VERY difficult to reopen the bundle once complete. I know a single wrap is all that's needed for your bar but ANY nick or cut will become huge.

 

[2stroke_shaman]

I agree Lou shrink wrap works quick . Buy enough to have some extra . This is just one optiion . They have many . I covered a stainless braid clutch cable that leaked oil with a bit of shrink tube with glue in it .
https://www.mcmaster.com/#shrink-tubing/=1e2nx11

 

[Lou]

If you add a slightly larger, thin metal sleeve near to where you weld, once the weld and cleanup are complete, you can likely with some difficulty slide the sleeve out of the shrink, split and remove it with a hacksaw or vibrating saw. The shrink tubing could then be properly positioned and shrunk.
Not necessarily easy but it's likely doable.
GL Lou
Glass tube that is later broken and removed?

 

[leecopland]

Limb-saver handle wrap. Comes in many colours too