Pioneer chainsaws

[rocketnorton]

thought they were 107ish?

 

[Beavers]

Does anyone know the differences between the P41 Western and P42 Western or is the P41 W a clone. lt seems to be difficult locating any info on the 41W model

 

[Fordsoll]

I have a pioneer 1073 that has bad crank case seals but I looked at ebay and cant find them. Is there any other chainsaw crankcase seals that are still available and that somebody has put into a pioneer 1073 or similar saw?

 

[Beavers]

Oem#428746, SKF 5606,

 

[j-jock]

I am not interested in selling it, I am just curious to learn how common they were.

 

[Fordsoll]

Oem#428746, SKF 5606,

Thank you, I looked on ebay but it said it was for the pioneer, P39, P40, P41, P42, P45, P51, P52, P60, P62, Would this still fit a 1073?

 

[Beavers]

Thank you, I looked on ebay but it said it was for the pioneer, P39, P40, P41, P42, P45, P51, P52, P60, P62, Would this still fit a 1073?

The original #428746 seal was common to that 1073 Saw also SKF5606 will fit.

 

[John Been]

I've got an RA in my collection, and it sure doesn't look like that. I read somewhere, that the starter was a third party unit, and used by several manufacturers. The name of the company is on the tip of my brain, so if you read of a brain fire tomorrow on the internet, that will be me. I'm thinking Fairbanks.....

Morse...

 

[Cookie]

Does anyone know the differences between the P41 Western and P42 Western or is the P41 W a clone. lt seems to be difficult locating any info on the 41W model

Got a full wrap p41 here. Walbro carb. Haven’t looked at the reed,standard small hole muffler. Id tag is just numbers, no model ID. Trimmed in black. Later version I guess

 

[pioneerguy600]

I've got an RA in my collection, and it sure doesn't look like that. I read somewhere, that the starter was a third party unit, and used by several manufacturers. The name of the company is on the tip of my brain, so if you read of a brain fire tomorrow on the internet, that will be me. I'm thinking Fairbanks.....

Fairbanks Morse

 

[Beavers]

Got a full wrap p41 here. Walbro carb. Haven’t looked at the reed,standard small hole muffler. Id tag is just numbers, no model ID. Trimmed in black. Later version I guess

What ign system is on the Saw?

 

[Cookie]

I’ll have to pull the covers and have a look. Has very strong compression at 150psi. Not sure if it’s been into at all. Very strong runner

 

[ML12]

Just out of curiosity, how common were the Pioneer 1750 chainsaws? I have one, and at 120ccs, it is not a toy.

Not that common... I have one too, it also came from the island. But it was really rough and locked up when i got it. I had to do a lot of repairs to the castings and get quite a few other bits (made new oil lines, and cylinder tin shroud, retrofit an outboard coil etc.) They're only 107cc. Same ish (porting upgraded?) as a 750. (lots of the parts are common if you need anything). Mines a runner now, pulls the 32 like its not even there.



Mine was evidently used as a falling saw by one of the larger companies, had some stuff scribed on the side, the handle definitely isn't right for the saw, but it does fit ok.

 

[Squareground3691]

Not that common... I have one too, it also came from the island. But it was really rough and locked up when i got it. I had to do a lot of repairs to the castings and get quite a few other bits (made new oil lines, and cylinder tin shroud, retrofit an outboard coil etc.) They're only 107cc. Same ish (porting upgraded?) as a 750. (lots of the parts are common if you need anything). Mines a runner now, pulls the 32 like its not even there.

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Mine was evidently used as a falling saw by one of the larger companies, had some stuff scribed on the side, the handle definitely isn't right for the saw, but it does fit ok.

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Nice

 

[j-jock]

I can't remember now, but I think I got the displacement from Mike Acres site. The size of the saw doesn't matter, because I was bequeathed this saw by a good friend. The saw was sold by a dealer in Courtenay. The business was no longer in existence when I got here in 1973. I left the decal on the filter cover, because I think it is part of the history.
Bob

 

[cbfarmall]

Not that common... I have one too, it also came from the island. But it was really rough and locked up when i got it. I had to do a lot of repairs to the castings and get quite a few other bits (made new oil lines, and cylinder tin shroud, retrofit an outboard coil etc.) They're only 107cc. Same ish (porting upgraded?) as a 750. (lots of the parts are common if you need anything). Mines a runner now, pulls the 32 like its not even there.

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Mine was evidently used as a falling saw by one of the larger companies, had some stuff scribed on the side, the handle definitely isn't right for the saw, but it does fit ok.

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1750s and follow-on models were definitely hotter than the 750s and even more so than the 700s. Transfers got bigger and then Pioneer joined transfers and removed exhaust bridges. Seems every model has a different cylinder part # and I don't know all the differences. It's super easy to swap them around, though. The only direct drive I lack is a 1771 and I also have yet to encounter a 1870.

 

[j-jock]

The only other 1750 I have seen, is (was?) on display at the Duncan Forestry Museum, on Vancouver Island. There is a pretty good collection of saws, as well as a fantastic quantity of other equipment.
There are also working Shay and rod steam engines, and a large display of cats, donkey engines, arches, loader, and a sawmill.
You get to ride out to the display area on a working steam train.
An excellent place to spend a day, with a large grass area, where you can have a picnic lunch.
Most of you, will not recognize this truck parked next to my little camper. It is a Butler, and was designed to haul 100,000 lb loads. This picture was taken in 1973, at the MacMillan Bloedell yard, in Menzie's Bay, north of Campbell River.

 

[Yukon Stihl]

Both trucks have awesome cool points

 

[Cookie]

Show and tell.

Little project I’ve been working on the last few weeks. P42cbw. Pretty nice shape, just got a good clean, and top frame was replaced, and a new decal. Nice saw!

 

[j-jock]

Pretty looking saw.