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Rygel, sounds like you know where you are headed, stick utility out for a while, get expert at it, then move on to the type of treework you want to do. Mike, in the earlier thread buddy was asking about hospital visits, I don't count a few stitches as a big deal, only been cut bad once. I was juvenile spacing at the time, most demanding, tough job I have ever had, tougher than concrete, rebar or any other hard job I have done. Its good to see a guy getting help and advice from pro arborists, I know utility is now a thankless task, glad I windfirm.
 
Ha! this is going off topic but i did concrete just before taking this job! I HATE IT! will never even pour my own!
I cant say i dont ike utility work- its just the production versus proper care i'm looking at. I enjoy utility - the only other job I've done where i get a rush almost everyday was jumping out of airplanes!
 
If dude told me to trash the yard, tell you what I'd trash the yard. If it makes your job easier why argue. Guy told me one time to just dropped the branches on the house, well I sure did, some were quite large. They took out the back wall of the house, knocked all the ceiling tile out it was awesome. It made for some quick work. I believe I made a good 500 dollars for a few hours work that night.

The GCRS is OK if your wanting to picks something up or put the branches back on the tree. I find it all has to go to the ground so why pick it up?

Have no worries and let gravity do the work.
 
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All those pictures above and every piece I notched right at the house. It wasnt because I wasnt getting paid. It was just a fun thing to do. Sometimes tree work getts boring and you need to mix it up a little.
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You got me confused but I dropped every piece on the house. It was just that one whole lead. The owner said it was cheaper than getting a crane in there. That is was.
 
I do not put divits in lawns, it is not my style. I always err on the side of being too careful. I just hate having to fix broken stuff. It is a money and time waster.
 
BigJohn said:
You got me confused but I dropped every piece on the house. It was just that one whole lead. The owner said it was cheaper than getting a crane in there. That is was.

1. Was a crane the only other option?
2. If so, how much do cranes cost in your area?

I've yet to do a crane job but around here I've heard around $200/hr just for the crane/operator. It looks like more than $400-$500 + your rate worth of damage to house.
 
The homeowner stood right there. I feel he was very pleased with my work to the tree and the renovation on the house. That is what he wanted.

Thanks Mike, being wound tight is a good thing? right? I'm as black and white as they come.
 
It looks like an insurace job.See the one top ripped and on the house?the house was probably in direpair and the homeowner saw it as a chance to get the whole thing rebuilt instead of repaired at the ins. co's expense.I've seen it a million times
 
Pete, I am not saying never to rig, just to rig safe. With all respect I don't think your life should depend on your groundmans ability to let the rope run. After numerous arguements on this site about rigging big, after being personally denigrated for expressing my feelings about rigging I took some time to look into it. Tom Dunlap posted a link to an article in a post "Drop zone safety" is the name of the post. Much to my satisfaction the author shares many of my views, please read it, he concludes that free dropping (hammering it down) is the safest way to go unless there are valuable targets below (I don't think he means lawns). He says that as soon as you are rigging the risk doubles. He also states how skilled climbers who free drop "take great pride" in putting all the wood in one spot. The ISA article talks about how people use equipment that has higher ratings than the tree they are in, leading to an increase in rigging related fatalities. The English link is called "rigging for disaster", self explanatory. Nothing wrong with rigging wood, as long as you are carefull and most of all, rig it small. Be safe, cheers.
 

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