Poulan 3400 counter vibe

[Eccentric]

we need pictures...we are old....:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

Well.................I can't post pictures of a saw that doesn't (yet) exist.


If you're talking about pics of the previous 54cc saws that were enlarged to 70 and 82cc.................well I'd get in trouble with the green tribe (again) for posting pics of those in a Poulan thread..

 

[OhioGregg]

So I did my muffler mod tonight drilled all the baffle holes to 3/8 and slit the side not as nice as Gregg's but ill see how it runs I might be selling a clean 026 after this and go all poulan with the 4400 I'm getting tomorrow View attachment 271528View attachment 271529

That will work fine! The pic of mine was a standard issue 4000 muffler opening. I do drill out the baffle also. If ya want a great muffler mod, and are real talented with a welder, you could do one like Mark did on this one.:msp_ohmy: Looks just like the muffler on the bigger series saws.

Gregg,

 

[Modifiedmark]

Well.................I can't post pictures of a saw that doesn't (yet) exist.


If you're talking about pics of the previous 54cc saws that were enlarged to 70 and 82cc.................well I'd get in trouble with the green tribe (again) for posting pics of those in a Poulan thread..

Not quite the same deal to increase the displacment of a 3300 as to the design you speak of. Pretty easy to put a bigger engine in that oudated modular or what ever you call it saw. Its also why they earned the reputation of building/selling antique saws longer then any others.

In the end it is what it is, Elux did what they wanted to do and that was to make sure Husqvarna ended up being there flagship and we should just feel satisfied that Poulan is still in business in the US providing jobs and good selling consumer saws.

My main point I was trying to make in my earlier post was even as good as the 3400 on up saws were, Poulan was on the right track with the 3000 types of saws. They were a upgrade no matter how you look at it, but they never got the chance to progress with it as far as I see it.

 

[OhioGregg]

Not quite the same deal to increase the displacment of a 3300 as to the design you speak of. Pretty easy to put a bigger engine in that oudated modular or what ever you call it saw. Its also why they earned the reputation of building/selling antique saws longer then any others.

In the end it is what it is, Elux did what they wanted to do and that was to make sure Husqvarna ended up being there flagship and we should just feel satisfied that Poulan is still in business in the US providing jobs and good selling consumer saws.

My main point I was trying to make in my earlier post was even as good as the 3400 on up saws were, Poulan was on the right track with the 3000 types of saws. They were a upgrade no matter how you look at it, but they never got the chance to progress with it as far as I see it.

I agree with that 100%. As much as I like the older midsize and larger Green Poulans. Like the 3400-4000, 4200-8500. The one I think would be a great saw would be a 70-75cc version of the PPSuper 380. Even if it ment increasing the physical size of the saw slightly. But then I guess you would have a Husky 372xp.:msp_tongue:

Gregg,

 

[Magnumfloyd]

The saw runs great once I get it running could no air filter be screwing up my tuning to get it running.


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[Magnumfloyd]

So I was having some starting issue and noticed the chain spinning when trying to start so I pulled the clutch and greased the needle bearings and my problems have seemed to go away has any else experienced this before.

 

[Gushh]

I want a black taped 245a

 

[tmessenger]

Wonder how the 3400 compares to the Sthil 029 super they are the same displacement and same weight if the Poulan given weight of 13.8 lbs is correct. The Stihl of course is a later design and I would expect has a higher chain speed.

Tim

 

[redunshee]

I have both and the 029 super has higher rpm's but the 3400 has more grunt. In hardwood it might prevail.

 

[Magnumfloyd]

Are 3400 temperamental when I get it started it runs great but starting can be a chore sometime I think it actually started easier before the air filter. I have replaced the fuel lines spark plug and it wants to fire just doesn't stay running every time know with the air filter if I lock the throttle it will sometimes start other times not so much

 

[fossil]

Are 3400 temperamental when I get it started it runs great but starting can be a chore sometime I think it actually started easier before the air filter. Have have replace the fuel lines spark plug and it wants to fire just doesn't stay running every time know with the air filter if I lock the throttle it will sometimes start other times not so much

I don't find mine hard to start and they run fine.
Where do you have the carb needles set? Should be 1 turn out each to start.
If you don't have the low speed set right it can be hard to start.

What's your starting procedure when starting it when cold and when hot?

 

[Magnumfloyd]

L needle is just a 1/16 of a turn below one now and that has seemed to fix my cold problem and I usually when cold full choke till it pops then half choke. When hot it wants no choke but throttle lock on usually does the trick. I might be looking for two much but my 4400 and my 026 are running by the second or third pull the 3400 is around eight or nine

 

[fossil]

L needle is just a 1/16 of a turn below one now and that has seemed to fix my cold problem and I usually when cold full choke till it pops then half choke. When hot it wants no choke but throttle lock on usually does the trick. I might be looking for two much but my 4400 and my 026 are running by the second or third pull the 3400 is around eight or nine

I know they're all a little different but my idle screws are all just over 1 turn which gives me a a good start.
Cold start is full choke and throttle lock on. Pops once, throttle lock still on and choke full off.
Hot start is just switch on and pull. Starts first pull.
I find if the idle is a bit lean the throttle response is not good. I usually adjust the low side needle so the revs up smartly from idle.

Have you checked the saw for vacuum leaks? That usually results in hard starts ( and poor idle). You may have the start of one.

That's about all I can offer from my very limited experience. maybe some of the experienced tuners can chime in and help you more.
I would hate you to think these uniits won't start and run well because they surely will.
The few old Poulans I have fixed up all start easily unless they've been sitting for a long time.

 

[tmessenger]

L needle is just a 1/16 of a turn below one now and that has seemed to fix my cold problem and I usually when cold full choke till it pops then half choke. When hot it wants no choke but throttle lock on usually does the trick. I might be looking for two much but my 4400 and my 026 are running by the second or third pull the 3400 is around eight or nine

If the carb diaphragm is starting to get hard they just don't pump gas like they should when the engine is being pulled over by hand.

 

[redunshee]

Some saws just start easier than others. Could be many reasons,spark,compression,carb somewhat dirty. I have 3400's that start cold within 4pulls, others 8-9 pulls. One theory I!mworking on has to do with a clean carb. By clean I mean USC clean as opposed to carb cleaner clean. I'm beginning to think that at times, manual cleaning can't get the carb clean enough. A USC likely gets it much cleaner and might result in easier starting.
Bob

 

[Magnumfloyd]

Maybe ill do a carb rebuild saw has had very little hours still has original poulan chain and bar. I checked the carb seals by pulling the clutch and flywheel and turning the saw over with a drill and sprayed soapy water and got no bubbles

 

[fossil]

Maybe ill do a carb rebuild saw has had very little hours still has original poulan chain and bar. I checked the carb seals by pulling the clutch and flywheel and turning the saw over with a drill and sprayed soapy water and got no bubbles

Sorry. I thought you had put a kit in that carb. When I get an old saw I always put a carb kit in it if it doesn't run well after I replace what I see it needs. The diaphrams and gaskets get hard with the ethanol in the gas.
I think you will find that's a good investment.

 

[redunshee]

I assumed you had rebuilt the carb also. Rebuild is must for any saw that has been sitting for any length of time unless it had been run dry.

 

[Magnumfloyd]

Where to buy a good rebuild kit

 

[Eccentric]

My 3400 was a cranky starter even after I cleaned the carb with a USC (and reused the diaphragms and gaskets as I didn't have a kit). Got a kit and put in the new needle, screen, diaphragms and gaskets. Started and ran fine after that. Sometimes we can get away with reusing the soft parts....but it's not a good idea.

The kit you need is K10-HDB.