I've been a production climber for 20+ years. As far as rigging gear, I have all the basics. Experience covers all aspects of tree care. Not sure the meaning of your question.
Practice Tree - How would you drop / dismantle?
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I've been a production climber for 20+ years. As far as rigging gear, I have all the basics. Experience covers all aspects of tree care. Not sure the meaning of your question.
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That being said I'd like to hear everyone opinions on how they would tackle this project. I have an 8" pole saw, 14" top handle and 16-20" rear handles for cutting equipment.
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A 8" pole saw is going to be way too short. You will need more sections.[/QUOTE]
You had asked opinion on how to tackle this project, but just said what saws you had. Anyway, I'd just go ahead and get up in there and start whittling on it. Go about halfway up and hinge those leaders over, then get everything blocked down to the original stump. Dig up that little bush and drop the stob that way.
HuskStihl
Chairin'em for the sound
Zale accidentally removed the "quote" bracket making his quoting of the original post look like his own. He was responding to the OP, not asking a question. Therein lies the confusion.
Jolly, what's the difference between a stob and a snag?
To me, a snag is a good spot to cast at on the river, and a stob is just Texan for a spar, or pole.:msp_biggrin:
old_soul
ArboristSite Operative
that is one UGLY hemlock tree
Looks fairly easy from the pics, especially since you are dropping the utilities....
set rope over halfway up, notch and pull it over
Take time to make a good notch and back cut and leave a good straight hinge
But honestly, i just logged in to say that the business slogan for "left field engineering" cracked me up..................is that for real?
Looks fairly easy from the pics, especially since you are dropping the utilities....
set rope over halfway up, notch and pull it over
Take time to make a good notch and back cut and leave a good straight hinge
But honestly, i just logged in to say that the business slogan for "left field engineering" cracked me up..................is that for real?
LFEngineering
ArboristSite Operative
Yes "I'd Tap That" is / was one of my slogans. I had stickers made up a few years back and boy were they a hit.
B Harrison
ArboristSite Guru
And here I thought you were just being a smartass. If that is a rake against the fence it should be removed prior to that work happening, rakes could be dangerous when left unattended.
Thank you for clarifying that. I'm pretty good with a chainsaw but lousy with a computer.
Yeah, sorry about that zale, I was confused too. I was thinking wtf? The zale I know has way more saws and rips trees like that up before coffee break. Jeff
LFEngineering
ArboristSite Operative
It's not as much advice, just to see what other people thought. In my experiences looking at a problem from multiple points of view can lead to new techniques or just a better way of doing things.
if it where mine, I would go as high as its safe to do and take as small of pieces as you can. I'd use a short rope and butt tie the limbs, cut them and then throw them down. or peel them and do the same. take them larger where theres room. leave a small pile of brush to land your logs on. if you don't have gear, fell it in the safest place and leave the hinge strong opposite the lean or weighted side. a nice open face notch will help keep the hinge working as long as possible too.
LFEngineering
ArboristSite Operative
So after everyone input and a half hour starring at the tree here's what I've come up with as a general plan;
1.) Move utilities
2.) Use 11' (8" bar) pole saw to clear all the smalls within reach from the ground.
3.) Use ladder to climb up to crotch at 6-8' level & tie in using my osha fall protection harness.
4.) Use top handle to clear up everything within reach
5.) Still at 6-8' level use pole saw again to clear everything in reach (should be halfway up tree)
6.) Using rope lifting pole set 5/8 bull rope 1/2 - 2/3 up each of the large vertical branches face cut > back cut, get out of tree and pull to snap.
7.) Repeat for the all the vertical branches.
8.) Climb back up to crotch and chunk off remaining verticals into firewood length pieces, work my way down.
1.) Move utilities
2.) Use 11' (8" bar) pole saw to clear all the smalls within reach from the ground.
3.) Use ladder to climb up to crotch at 6-8' level & tie in using my osha fall protection harness.
4.) Use top handle to clear up everything within reach
5.) Still at 6-8' level use pole saw again to clear everything in reach (should be halfway up tree)
6.) Using rope lifting pole set 5/8 bull rope 1/2 - 2/3 up each of the large vertical branches face cut > back cut, get out of tree and pull to snap.
7.) Repeat for the all the vertical branches.
8.) Climb back up to crotch and chunk off remaining verticals into firewood length pieces, work my way down.
beastmaster
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That's a cute little tree. be kind of hard to hurt your self in except for cutting your self in the tree. Why not just cut the branches on the side with all the weight on it with your pole saw from the ground. Just rip cut them so they hang on the tree, then after one side is down finish your cut, that way you won't crush the bushes. Then just put a line as high as you can, tie a truckers hitch, make your face cut, tighten up the truckers hitch as tight as you can, have a wedge or two ready just in case and fall it. Or even cut it high with a big face cut, and let it fall on the bushes. If it stays on the stump, it won't hurt them to bad you can't clean them up.
old_soul
ArboristSite Operative
what is the reason for a pole saw in this situation? If you're going to tie off each lead and pull over with a rope there is no point in stripping the limbs off.
Much safer to cut up once on the ground.
Unless you are trying to make this take twice as long, on purpose..............
If I wasn't going to fall it and the service lines were removed, what I would do is climb into the crotch, strip out everthing you can reach and then fast cut the verticals. They'll stick into the ground and your groundie can then just carry them away. I may notch and fall the verticals or snap cut and toss, depending on what I found when I was in the tree.
LFEngineering
ArboristSite Operative
The purpose of the pole sawing from the ground is strictly screwing around with the new pole saw, however once up in the tree it's to clear away enough of the smalls to push the rope up there.
That get's my vote for answer of the week. :msp_thumbup: I was at woodcrafters the other day and picked up a feather edge file for my Silky finally. Ended up going over to the neighbor's and trimming the watersprouts off a couple of his trees just to see how it did.
LFEngineering
ArboristSite Operative
Took Long Enough
Well, after weeks of waiting for everything to fall in place I was finally able to take the tree down. I ended up going with a half practice dismantle half get it on the GD ground plan. I did use the pole saw to clean up the small stuff, enough to to lay a ladder against the tree and climb up there. After that I took the top handle and notched and dropped each section pushing them over in between bushes. Overall the surrounding bushes did pretty well, they were way overgrown anyway after the clean up and some trimming they'll be good as new. Now that the tree near the power lines is gone I can take the other ones down later this week. Again thank you everyone for your input.
Well, after weeks of waiting for everything to fall in place I was finally able to take the tree down. I ended up going with a half practice dismantle half get it on the GD ground plan. I did use the pole saw to clean up the small stuff, enough to to lay a ladder against the tree and climb up there. After that I took the top handle and notched and dropped each section pushing them over in between bushes. Overall the surrounding bushes did pretty well, they were way overgrown anyway after the clean up and some trimming they'll be good as new. Now that the tree near the power lines is gone I can take the other ones down later this week. Again thank you everyone for your input.
