So, i had purchased a 20' length of prusik cord to make a prusik for secured footlocking. THe core was left hanging out on bother sides of the purchased cord. i cut it to make it shorter, now one side has sucked in, how do i correct this and prevent it from happening in the future? I ask becasue when i leave the core hanging out the end it seems to come undone (which makes me nervous).
Prusik milking?
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Carburetorless
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I trim the ends, then burn them.
You MUST identify the rope before we can answer that question.
If you bought a core dependent rope like bee-line, you cannot melt it. It simply doesn't melt at any temperature. Honestly! Put a propane torch on it, and it will glow red and slowly turn into ashes, but it will never melt. Furthermore, securing the ends and tying knots and splicing with that kind of rope is different than for other types of rope.
When all else fails, load it nice and tight, milk all the slack out of the cover, then whip the end and hit it with some superglue just to make sure. Naturally, do one end at a time. You won't probably like how it turns out if you try sealing both at the same time.
If you bought a core dependent rope like bee-line, you cannot melt it. It simply doesn't melt at any temperature. Honestly! Put a propane torch on it, and it will glow red and slowly turn into ashes, but it will never melt. Furthermore, securing the ends and tying knots and splicing with that kind of rope is different than for other types of rope.
When all else fails, load it nice and tight, milk all the slack out of the cover, then whip the end and hit it with some superglue just to make sure. Naturally, do one end at a time. You won't probably like how it turns out if you try sealing both at the same time.
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Doesn't Bee line come with eye splices in it though?
How to Whip the Ends of Rope by TIAT - YouTube would these be acceptable methods to whip rope?
ddhlakebound
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LOL, how many 20' eye to eye split tails have you seen?
It's called bulk cordage.
8mm Bee Line is great prussic cord. That is what I climb on.
The core alone is sufficiently strong to climb on, the cover is only there to protect the core.
If you are going to tie your prussic to a carabiner or snap, use a double or triple fisherman and don't worry about whipping it. Leave it secured until you throw it away. If you like to re-tie occasionally, whip it, then superglue it. The superglue is the only reliable way to bind the soft core to the tough cover. As I pointed out before, melting won't work.
If you plan on splicing your own, you need to study up on core-dependent rope. Making your own eye-to-eye is tricky, and you won't be able to find any manufacturer to tell you how to do it safely. The tails must be inserted further than the length of the e2e, so the only way to make it work is to install a locking brummel. I am still climbing on my original e2e, and it is well over a year old. This rope is very easy to splice, but you need to be careful that you do it right.
Most folks just buy a ready to make e2e.
The core alone is sufficiently strong to climb on, the cover is only there to protect the core.
If you are going to tie your prussic to a carabiner or snap, use a double or triple fisherman and don't worry about whipping it. Leave it secured until you throw it away. If you like to re-tie occasionally, whip it, then superglue it. The superglue is the only reliable way to bind the soft core to the tough cover. As I pointed out before, melting won't work.
If you plan on splicing your own, you need to study up on core-dependent rope. Making your own eye-to-eye is tricky, and you won't be able to find any manufacturer to tell you how to do it safely. The tails must be inserted further than the length of the e2e, so the only way to make it work is to install a locking brummel. I am still climbing on my original e2e, and it is well over a year old. This rope is very easy to splice, but you need to be careful that you do it right.
Most folks just buy a ready to make e2e.
ddhlakebound
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I just wrap the ends or cut points tightly in electrical tape, and cut through the tape. It leaves a neat end poking out of the double fishermans on the ends of my e2e. If you're worried about it milking more, wrap an extra inch, and cut off the excess core inside the tape when it stabilizes.
Not really. Those 3 whipping methods do not bind the core to the cover, they only prevent unraveling of a braided rope. If you whipped the rope with a thinner string and then lock stitched it, you would be ok.
Do a search, look up some splicing threads by Ghillie, he does some outstanding good splices, and his whipping is downright beautiful. As I recall, he has some excellent examples of lock stitching, too.
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I've only seen it with eyes already on it. I thought maybe that was a typo 20' instead of 20".
No need to be abusive man.
wow someone needs a timeout.
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If you want me to respond you should call me something more respectful than clueless.
I mean, you wouldn't want me referring to you as #### O Matic; Would you?
Anyway,
I've made a few, they come in handy.
I can't say I've seen any for sale, but I'm not one to run to the rope store every time I need a prusik for this or that.
Carburetorless
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No, someone is just tired of other people's bull ####.
so the did you melt your beeline together when you made yours... must be a map gas torch since its "high heat resistant" up to like 1000º
if you do not like being referred to as clueless don't make clueless statements
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If you don't like being called mouth #### on a old man's ####, then shut your pie hole son.
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Intelligent rebuttal ... well spoken. Dont look now but your IQ is poking out from under your dress.
oops sorry I quoted you before your failed attempt to clean it up.
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No, that's your lunch little girl.
