Question about Taco circulator pumps

[Windwalker7]

About the Taco pumps that have a replacable cartridge.

Dose this mean that if you burn up a pump or it goes bad after years of use, that you can just replace the cartridge and you are good to go?

Can someone explain this?

 

[WVwoodsman]

Windwalker,
There are two flanges that the pump mounts to, so to replace the pump you would just disconnect the power source and isolate the loop by closing the valves to shut off the water and unbolt the pump and bolt up the new one, it's as easy as that. I hope this helps.

 

[projectsho89]

Windwalker,
There are two flanges that the pump mounts to, so to replace the pump you would just disconnect the power source and isolate the loop by closing the valves to shut off the water and unbolt the pump and bolt up the new one, it's as easy as that. I hope this helps.

Uh, no.

The TACO pump has a cartridge that, if it fails, you just replace the cartridge, not the whole pump. That's the purpose of having a replaceable cartridge. You only replace the "guts".

www.taco-hvac.com for data and catalog sheets.


Steve

 

[rx7145]

Or for $20 more you can replace the whole pump.

 

[projectsho89]

Or for $20 more you can replace the whole pump.

For a professional service technician, swapping a cartridge is far faster and cheaper that swapping a whole pump. A cartridge pump can be repaired in 5 or 10 minutes without having to open the system. If you're maintaining a large building with multiple loops, time is money.

These were intended for the professionals, not the DIYers. The DIYers are along for the ride because the pumps are very cost effective to buy and use.

Steve

 

[rx7145]

A cartridge pump can be repaired in 5 or 10 minutes without having to open the system.
Steve

I pretty sure you need to open the system when just changing the cartridge.

 

[ngzcaz]

If the system is isolated, you can change the whole pump in 5 or ten minutes so I'm not sure what the advantage would be for a cartridge change. Not like the old 20 lb circulators of years ago. And I've seen cartridges sell for more than the pumps on some sites.

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[itn]

Buying the cartridges ahead of time would save more than $20 dollars I believe. I bought mine 5 years ago when I put in my boiler. I did mine in less than 5 mins. And it seems they go bad on the coldest day. Also, why change the motor when you don't need to. 20 bucks is an extra case of beer.

 

[ngzcaz]

Just checked, pex supply has the whole unit for $ 59.99, the cartridge sells for $ 56.00.. These are the taco 007's.. For 3 bucks, I'll take the whole unit including the motor. Just my luck I'd change the cartridge and the freaking motor would go a week later. Where can you buy a case of beer for $3.99 ?

 

[itn]

I've changed my 007 once and my 009 once. Never had any motor troubles. Whatever makes you comfortable.

 

[STEVEGODSEYJR]

I have replaced the taco 009 pump on my Heatmore about this time last year. It was only three years old. I bought a grundfos pump (same size & capacity) for about half the price. My FIL replaced both his 009 tacos TWICE now in less than three years! He now agreeded with me and bought a grundfos for half the price. Around my area I have heard lots of people having trouble with the taco pumps ...no matter what size they were. Maybe it is just a Indiana problem?

 

[rx7145]

I have replaced the taco 009 pump on my Heatmore about this time last year. It was only three years old. I bought a grundfos pump (same size & capacity) for about half the price. My FIL replaced both his 009 tacos TWICE now in less than three years! He now agreeded with me and bought a grundfos for half the price. Around my area I have heard lots of people having trouble with the taco pumps ...no matter what size they were. Maybe it is just a Indiana problem?

I had one go bad under one year and boil my OWB. I guess they have good ones and bad ones. They seem to last longer when used in pressure systems.

 

[mtfallsmikey]

Use the Taco isolation valve/flange combo. Webstone Valve makes a similar deal with a tee/drain valve attached. Cartridge change is easy, I would recommend keeping a spare around.

 

[ngzcaz]

The groundfos pumps I located are over double the price of a taco. What pump and where is the supllier located that has them for half the price of a taco. That would put them in the 30 to 40 dollar range..

 

[rx7145]

Good point. The cheapest place I have found is Grainger.

 

[STEVEGODSEYJR]

The groundfos pumps I located are over double the price of a taco. What pump and where is the supllier located that has them for half the price of a taco. That would put them in the 30 to 40 dollar range..

The guy we got the pumps from sells Hardy OWBs and he was the only one anywhere close that had one. They were $230 a piece That is B.S.!!! The first one didn't work at all and the second one was leaking water out of the motor housing . He finally gave us another one and said he couldn't give us anymore because he was loosing money on them?? They were taco 009 pumps. I went to the local plumbing store and picked up a grundfos ( same size) for $120. I still thought that was way to high but WTF do you do when it is 12* outside and you can't use the OWB? I am up for buying an extra but where is the best place to get them? Steve

 

[MATTYB11]

Kind of off the topic, but are these pumps still made in the USA. Taco is located in the next town over from me but I'm not sure how much manufacturing is still done there. I toured the facility where these pumps are made back in high school. It was pretty cool to see.

 

[ngzcaz]

A spare circulator ( I would buy the whole works including the motor ) seems like a good idea. A spare draft motor might also be a good move, but at least you could open the draft lid/and or the ash bin door a bit to keep the fire going.
Obviously the tacos cant all be bad since they sell hundreds of thousands w/out incident ( according to my plumber anyway ) It is kind of ironic that a company that expounds the virtues of simplicity has its customers stocking spare parts. However, we may be lucky.. they are a lot of companies that have way more complicated gizmos & widgets ( technical terms ) then the Shaver.

AND...............Happy Thanksgiving to all.. How do we cook a turkey in the OWB ??



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[itn]

In my opinion tacos are excellent. My 009 has ran 24/7 for 5 years and i've changed one cartridge.

 

[reaperman]

I bought a new 007 off ebay in 2002 for $55, and its still going strong. I have a electric boiler set up for infloor heat in our dog kennel which uses two 007's and the one I bought from ebay is one of these pumps, the other pump, the heating guy supplied. Last year I bought a "spare" 007, to have on hand, just in case one of these fail, I again paid around $60 w/ shipping. The seller sent me a 0010 by mistake, I told him I didnt need a pump that big and send the 007 and we will exchange. I told him "I" would pay return postage on the 0010 when I get the 007. Well about a month went by and he never sent the 007 until I contacted my credit card company. Then he sent the 007 without a return address so I kept the 0010. If anyone needs a 0010, let me know, I'll sell her cheap, otherwise I could used it if I absolutely had to.

To make a long story short, the pumps on ebay are cheaper, especially if your not in a big hurry. If you run across a good deal, buy it, if you dont, wait for a better deal to come.

Our local Menards started carrying 007's for bit over $100, cant remember exact price.