rec climbing saddle

[Tree Machine]

im not sure if "grade10" is an actual/accurate designation for a certain type of steel/clip. its just the referecne ive picked up some where.

You're cool, I know what you mean; Slang for 'Bombproof Steel Triple Lock, 40 or 50 kN'
It's your link between the sliding D and your lifeline. I don't use an aluminum one up front either.

 

[Tree Machine]

Kweshhinn

p.s. Why is your microcender off of your steel-core flipline?

 

[jason j ladue]

???? you guys dont miss nothin. its brand new .aint used it yet. a better question would be why is the flipline not hooked to my belt...usually that would never be.

 

[Tree Machine]

A better question yet would be <i>how</i> will you attach the thimbled end of the steel-core flipline to your saddle, and to which side, and why? There's a few ways to skin this cat.

 

[jason j ladue]

is that supposed to hook to the saddle? ive always just let it dangle. clip to the side d-ring (on the left, and adjust w/my right) and run the rest of the line through the ascender. how would you skin it? i probly just made my self sound like an idiot, but oh well

 

[Tree Machine]

Good, basic questions

You're OK, Jason

Use a steel screw-link (Maillon Rapide), which are rated. I like the Demi Rond, and am using it currently. Before that, I used the Delta which worked really well for me, and I'll probably go back to that some day. This is not a good place to use a caribiner

Use the Maillon to attach your <i>right side</i> D-ring to the thimble on your steel core flipline. This is permanent. You'll be adjusting with your left hand. Right side gets busy with chainsaws, slings, etc.

On your left-side D-ring will clip the Snap if you're fully extended, or the micrograb for adjustment.

While ascending your rope, your flipline should go around your mids twice, counterclockwise. If you're not too fat, you should be able to clip the snap to your left-side D and it'll be out of your way for active climbing.

Letting the flipline just hang gives the chainsaw the opportunity to contact the flipline (not good), as well as getting in the way of what your feet are doing.

You say you are clipping the snap to the D on your left, and using the ascender on the thimbled end for adjustment on your right? Technically, that'll work, but ascenders are not recommended for steel core fliplines, and they're not easily adjusted with one hand, like the micrograb is. You're so close, only a screw-link away! You can definitely streamline the system. Stay safe.

 

[glens]

A No-frills Weaver will get you into the tree, and carrying a saw

Next time we get together you'll have to show me what I'm doing wrong.&nbsp; As it stands, <i>I</i> have to get my <i>no-frills Weaver</i> into the tree...

Glen

 

[Tree Machine]

Next time we get together you'll have to show me what I'm doing wrong. Glen

Come test the 11 mm lines with me.

 

[jason j ladue]

TM, what's that green line?

 

[Tree Machine]

Velocity, by Sampson.

 

[jason j ladue]

hmm, interesting. 16 strand? new? i dont recognize it...

 

[Tree Machine]

11 mm semi-static kermantle. It's been out since October. You can buy it with a spliced eye.

 

[jason j ladue]

nice!

 

[Tree Machine]

Getting back to your saddle, and the attachment of the flipline thimble to the right side D-ring, wouldn't it be nice if they made wirecore fliplines with safety snaps on <i>both</i> ends?

 

[jason j ladue]

i want it

 

[Tree Machine]

Nahhh, the one you've got is fine. The delta link is around six bucks.

Forgot to mention the Velocity is a 24-strand rope. Excellent rope, but it's dead last amongst the group above.

 

[jason j ladue]

why last? last how? which is your favorite?

 

[geofore]

asking questions

is that supposed to hook to the saddle? ive always just let it dangle. clip to the side d-ring (on the left, and adjust w/my right) and run the rest of the line through the ascender. how would you skin it? i probly just made my self sound like an idiot, but oh well

Asking qustions has the exact opposite effect, an idiot would not know enough to ask. An intelligent person would realize he doesn't know all there is to know and smart enough to ask the questions. While on a personal level it may feel intimdating asking/exposing your level of knowledge to peers for review. Which would hurt more, a bruise on your ego (temporary thing) or falling out of a tree (permanant scars/death)? The fear of looking/feeling stupid is all in your mind, not asking when you don't know is stupid. The question is not stupid. Ask the questions if you want to look intelligent. It shows you are brave enough to admit know you don't know all there is to know and smart enough to ask. Asking the questions says you value your life, have balls enough to not be intimidated by others (thick skin) and want to learn more aka a show of intelligence/brainpower.

 

[rb_in_va]

Great post geo! At first I was thinking of PM members here (because in the past newbie climbers have gotten slammed), but then thought why not just start a new thread? I'd rather get the most opinions possible. It's not like I'm talking about doing takedowns or anything.

 

[Tree Machine]

Thanks, Geo

Yea, what Geo said. You just go ahead and ask any question you want.

(but sorta kinda try to stay on-topic).