reyco super jr 20hp

[billsnogo]

Work is real slow for my supposedly full time job (plumbers apprentice) and need to start taking in some income again and ran across this machine for sale with its own trailer. Still waiting for details, like hours on it, but thinking about picking it up and doing some small side work grinding smaller sumps (under 40") for part time work.

Working on price but looks like between $3000-3500. Sounds cheap compared to others I have seen. Does this sound like a deal, or average? Not sure if this is a good way to do some part time work, but can not do plumbing or the union will have a fit, and am tired of doing lawn care as there are tons of people willing to do it too cheap to even be worth the trip to me.

Any opinions are welcome.
thanks

 

[Mowingman]

I had a Super Jr. with the 25hp engine and it was a very slow, but dependable machine. The machine you are looking at is not bad for stumps under 18". Anything bigger than 18", it is really slow.
If it does not have the hydraulic steering, then pass on it. They are very hard to move around without the hyd. steering setup.
Depending on the overall condition, I still think the price is a little high. I would not get the machine if you want to do ANY stumps over 18" dia. It is just too underpowered.
I would say pay no more than $2500.00, and personally, I would not buy it at all if it does not have hydraulic steering.
Jeff

 

[Don't-B-Stumped]

before you buy a grinder check with your county and find out the legal requirements of that business. you may get in trouble with your local code enforcement if you don't do all they require.
here in south fl. in my county you have to have a tree trimming and removal license to grind stumps. if thats the case you may not want to go to all the hassle of getting a contractor license. lots of reading and studying mundane crap that you'll never use and they also require that you have all the insurance of that trade, liability, workmens comp. etc. good luck.

 

[lone wolf]

Work is real slow for my supposedly full time job (plumbers apprentice) and need to start taking in some income again and ran across this machine for sale with its own trailer. Still waiting for details, like hours on it, but thinking about picking it up and doing some small side work grinding smaller sumps (under 40") for part time work.

Working on price but looks like between $3000-3500. Sounds cheap compared to others I have seen. Does this sound like a deal, or average? Not sure if this is a good way to do some part time work, but can not do plumbing or the union will have a fit, and am tired of doing lawn care as there are tons of people willing to do it too cheap to even be worth the trip to me.

Any opinions are welcome.
thanks

i had one they break a lot real ##### to work on belts wear out a lot and are expensive as hell. the machine also gets real sloppy in the bushings. and if that is a Honda engine they had a problem from the factory where one cylinder would go bad don't buy it . Get a Vermeer they are so much better.

 

[Toddppm]

That's probably a 1620 machine, alot older than the 1625's . 1625 shouldn't be much more money.
We've been using a 1625 and had a 1620 a while ago. They're fine machines for what they are. I see no point in spending $30k for such a one purpose machine unless it's getting used all day everyday and ours isn't.

Did 5- 40" + Oak stumps, some dead, in front and back yard of 1 house that a pull behind couldn't get to within 3 hours not long ago. Ground and raked back into the holes, no problem. I did make sure I had new teeth though, yes regular cheapo teeth.

If I needed a good paying side job that would be it, boring as hell though

 

[billsnogo]

Guy will not reply to messages, so looks like I am still searching. Thanks for the advice so far

 

[billsnogo]

I know they are not very productive machines, but for starting, how about a vermeer sc130 for $2000? Or a bluebird SG1314A new for $2200?

I can't seem to find much for $4000 and under. I really rather pay cash as I do not know if this will be a lucrative, or disastrous adventure, and rather not take a loss and make payments on it.

Going to looking into getting insurance to keep my butt out of hot water too.

any other advice is welcomed, as there are several neighbors that are possible clients.

 

[billsnogo]

Found a rayco 1625 now with trailer, but guy says it does not have an hour meter? Firm on $4800, so will probably pass on that one.

 

[BC WetCoast]

I know they are not very productive machines, but for starting, how about a vermeer sc130 for $2000? Or a bluebird SG1314A new for $2200?

I can't seem to find much for $4000 and under. I really rather pay cash as I do not know if this will be a lucrative, or disastrous adventure, and rather not take a loss and make payments on it.

Going to looking into getting insurance to keep my butt out of hot water too.

any other advice is welcomed, as there are several neighbors that are possible clients.

If you are considering using the bluebird, why not see if you can get some jobs then go and rent the machine. You'll make enough to pay for the machine and see if you like it without any capital expenditure.

 

[Mowingman]

That is not a bad price at all, if the machine is in good condition. You might want to go have a look at that one.
Jeff

Found a rayco 1625 now with trailer, but guy says it does not have an hour meter? Firm on $4800, so will probably pass on that one.

 

[billsnogo]

That is not a bad price at all, if the machine is in good condition. You might want to go have a look at that one.
Jeff

I am still somewhat interested, but thought they came with an hour meter, and when I asked how many hours, he said he didn't know, it did not have an hour meter.

 

[Mowingman]

Depending on what year model it is, it may not have come with an hour meter.
What kind of trailer is included in the deal? If it is a Rayco trailer, those things are really expensive when bought new.
If you go look at it, check out all the pivot points for tightness. However, do not be alarmed if there is some slop in the joint areas, as most have bushings that can be replaced. The big cost is the electric clutch, if it has the electric clutch. When engaged, it sould engage firmly and quickly. If it seems to spin free for a few seconds before it engages,(makes kind of a hissing/rubbing sound), the clutch could be nearing the end of it's life. The electric clutch is around $300.00 as I recall.
I would open up the belt covers and look at the belts. They should be pretty snug with no major, visible, sag between pulleys. If they are real shiny and kind of hard, then belts might need to be replaced.
Cutter wheel bearings should run quietly, smoothly, and remain fairly cool. Warm to the touch is ok, buy if they get hot, that is not good.
Well, good luck. It might make you a pretty nice little machine at that price if it all checks out. I really like my little Super Jr., just needed to move up to a bigger machine as work increased.
Jeff

I am still somewhat interested, but thought they came with an hour meter, and when I asked how many hours, he said he didn't know, it did not have an hour meter.

 

[Don't-B-Stumped]

i currently have a super jr. 1635 with a briggs vanguard 35hp engine. great economical machine that is actually pretty fast when you get used to using it. its no diesel but for the money they are cheap to run and maintain especially if you can work on it yourself. i eventuall want to move up to a carlton diesel or rayco diesel. i paid 16k for mine new in 2006 but have done thousands of stumps with it.
if yours only has 20-25 hp it won't be as fast but as long as you keep the teeth sharp you can handle any stump. if its in good shape for that money i'd say jump on it.
also the dual wheel kit is awesome. a bit pricey but great in sand or on a side hill. you can change out the wheels in minutes if you need to get in a tight area.
i recommend green teeth. they are a great design that you can rotate for a fresh edge in the field in minutes. once you get the green teeth setup they are much cheaper to run than the rayco teeth.

 

[billsnogo]

Unfortunatly, it does not come with the dual wheel setup. I will need to look into this one more then

 

[billsnogo]

Sorry, but I am going to drive you guys nuts

Next a 2004 rayco RG20HD with a new 23hp engine, new teeth and new battery in march for $3000. Still a handle bar machine, but more hp and self propelled.

 

[howel07264]

I know they are not very productive machines, but for starting, how about a vermeer sc130 for $2000? Or a bluebird SG1314A new for $2200?

I can't seem to find much for $4000 and under. I really rather pay cash as I do not know if this will be a lucrative, or disastrous adventure, and rather not take a loss and make payments on it.

Going to looking into getting insurance to keep my butt out of hot water too.

any other advice is welcomed, as there are several neighbors that are possible clients.

If you buy one of these tiny machines you will start day one wishing you waited for something bigger. They are great for turning a 30 minute job into 4 hours hard labor.

 

[Mikecutstrees]

Small stumpers

I have a Vermeer 25 hp SC252. We have ground stumps all the way up to 50". Although not ideal the number of stumps we do 30" + does not justify the purchase of a larger stump grinder. We sharpen the teeth alot and keep them very sharp. Be sure to use a dust mask. Sharp teeth on my 252 will out grind a machine twice its size with dull teeth. I used to have a handlebar machine and it was just too hard on the body grinding for any amount of time. I don't wanna be 50 and be a cripple. But newer machines might be easier.

Mike

 

[Don't-B-Stumped]

don't waste your money on a handlebar grinder. those are ok for a homeowner rental for a small stump. too light for any kind of large hardwood or softwood for that matter. my rayco 1635 is almost 1400 lbs and it sometimes will jump if you try to take too big a bite. if you were really busy with a grinder you would want a diesel for the production and weight. for a part timer i would at least get the1625 super jr or its equivalent in a vermeer, or carlton or whatever. i'm a bit partial to the rayco but i'm looking at maybe going with a carlton with remote control. you'll be sorry if you get one of those 2 wheelers.

 

[billsnogo]

Thanks all for the advice, the smallest I will shoot for then is the vermeer 252/carlton 4012/rayco 1625.

I got to play (could not demo) the carlton 4012 with kohler 27hp, hydrolic steering, dual front wheels at our state fair today and the sales man said the lowest he could go was $14,600. Nice machine, but way out of my budget for this startup. Maybe someday.....

the search continues. I will keep asking when I get a good lead.

thanks again

 

[billsnogo]

Okay, found one in my budget, and may even have money left over if repairs are needed.

Vermeer 222, new kohler 25hp (less than 50 hours), extra stock teeth, no hydrolic steering, no trailer, no outer dual wheels, but price is $2000.

What say ye?

He is not far from the $4800 guy, so if for some reason I don't get it, I will stop by and see if they guy could do $4000 as that is the budget at the moment.

edit: where can you buy the dual wheel kit?