Never bought or sold anything on this site and reading these posts makes me even less likely to. I also quit selling on ebay because of the few low lifes that bought my merchandise, kept them, and cried to paypal that the stuff was defective. One guy bought a saw (a clean one) from me, claimed he couldn't get it started then mailed it back to me with sawdust all over it and inside the clutch cover showing me it had obviously been run. Another bought a parts saw from me and claimed that the chain brake didn't work properly, ebay sent him back his money (he failed to return the saw) even though I advertised it for parts only and I do believe the brake did work. I only sell face to face nowadays...