Ah, right. They go hard but only good for fish cakes, I reckon. Actually the juveniles aren't bad on the chew.
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Ah, right. They go hard but only good for fish cakes, I reckon. Actually the juveniles aren't bad on the chew.
I've wanted a 260 for a long time. Got sidetracked into saws a few years ago though. I think I've only purchased 2 guns since I got into saws.
That's pretty impressive.
I also agree with your second comment. Hitting something at long range is one thing. Cleanly killing game is another. Having enough retained energy at longer range to humanely kill game is important. Past 500 yards yards, many medium power rifles have about as much retained energy as a self defense pistol does at the muzzle, and I'd doubt many folks would choose a 9mm or 380 to kill a deer. One risks hitting the deer and having bullet failure as big game bullets may not open up at those low velocities. Not saying it's impossible but just pointing out that there's more to long range hunting than just putting the bullet on target.
Obviously some of the folks in this conversation are very knowledgeable about this stuff so in no way am I referring to anyone here, just throwing that out.
I dont hunt much or shoot much any more. I used to love to bear hunt with a pack of dogs. Had several encounters with bears on the ground that would make your hair stand on end. Killed one with my model 29, 44mag that burnt the hair on the bear when I shot it. Almost got ran over by a 400lbder at 4am that was being chased by the dogs. Had a curious 30lb cub, that I didnt even know was there, sniff my pants leg from behind, I jerked away and cub squeeled and I hear Momma bear come charging up the ridge. Of course I ran, that could have turned out really bad, and I didnt even have a gun. Last few years I bear hunted, I usually just carried a camera. Never was a big deer hunting fan, killed a few, just not the same thrill as hunting a bear. Liked coon hunting, whether or not a coon was anywhere in the country that night. Didnt matter, just thrashing thru the woods at night felt good. Varmit hunting I still enjoy, just dont do enough of it. Laws have changed, fur prices aint worth pursuing, and way to many houses on subdivided farms You can no longer hunt. Even the farms that havnt been split up are posted. Cant blame them, trespassers leaving trash and tearing down fences, even been a few goats, and one cow I know of, that where mistaken for a deer and killed. On the other hand, the local gun range seems to be thriving. If your in the area, you can hear gunfire every day of the week and about any hour of the day.
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Perhaps it does. Check out ballistics for 30 caliber chamberings with round nose bullets.
You obviously do a lot of shooting and are familiar with the ballistics of your chamberings. The average hunter does not understand that.
I like the 1000ft/lbs rule of thumb which made my 30-30 good to max 150 yards and my 25-06 out to 350 plus. I found the 25-06 started to drop pretty good past 300 so that was my self imposed limit. Never shot one past 250. I imagine a 243 would drop about 5 ft at 650. Anyone who can hit anything the size of a car door at that range gets my tip of the hat. I got caught up in long range shooting when I moved from bush hunting in the hills of Arkansas to the flat wide open Mississippi delta farm land. But honestly, I prefer still hunting with the light, short, easy to carry model 94 lever at ranges inside 100 yards. Gotta be ethical, shot placement is everything. No bench rest in the woods, just a tree stand that moves ever so slightly in the wind or with your shifting weight... Long range isn’t for me unless it’s just milk jugs or paint cans.
So after feeling guilty about going off topic ,(I can talk guns, fishing, vehicles etc all day!) I took the 460 out to the pile and made some pine and fur noodles for chicken bedding. One armload in the coop and the rest stuffed in a feed bag. Noodled a bit of elm too to clean the chain from the pine.
Agree with you 100% Jeff, a little gust of wind in the middle of the range and that 243 will be about 3' off at that distance. IMO, not ethical to hunt that far with that cartridge. Plus, what would you be shooting from, sand bags???
Whenever possible I lock my left arm into my sling and either sit, kneel or rest against a tree. On freezing cold days with gloves on, it really helps to improve your shot placement, and reduce the effect of trigger pull moving POI.
Whenever possible I lock my left arm into my sling and either sit, kneel or rest against a tree. On freezing cold days with gloves on, it really helps to improve your shot placement, and reduce the effect of trigger pull moving POI.
Man, I really thought you came over to the good side, then I realized your talking guns!!!
Winchester really blew it IMO, and I said it at the time. They came out with the 308 + 243 and I'm like, where is the 27-08, it would have been a near perfect cartridge! I was saying this before the 7 mm 08 and the 260, neither of which would exist if Winchester has listened to me!!! But they were afraid to cut into 270 sales, so they missed out big time!!! Or, they could have done a 260, they had the 6.5 Mag. That also would have been much more successful as a 277! Was just too much powder for a 6.5.
WoOT !!
And then the sun came out and I could hear harps playing
Ironically, I noodled some Elm today also, giving my MS 710 some break in time!
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And this is my 2 handed starting method so I don't leave my fingers on the ground starting the beast!
Does that come from the manual!?
So I decided to go that-a-way to Shangri-La lol
I ended up with a few stems
Got them drug roadside
You can hardly tell I was there lol
Even scrounged up some pine boughs so the wife can make some Christmas decorations .
I ended up with a few stems
Got them drug roadside
You can hardly tell I was there lol
Even scrounged up some pine boughs so the wife can make some Christmas decorations .
Yeah I think they bungled things up many times. Plus they had the .284 which was a smart little cartridge but iirc only had offered it in a lever gun. Which allowed Remington to get in the action with both the 7mm-08 and the 280.
So many cartridges out there now. Back when I started hunting, I'd say 95 percent of the guys in the woods had either .30-06, .30-30, or .308. Beginners used a .243 or .30-30.
What drives me nuts are folks who can't hit squat buy a magnum chambering way to large for deer hunting to compensate.
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