Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[woodchip rookie]

I DON'T like the mtronic. My dealer says he sells only the regular carb ones. I'll be talking to him to see if he can change my 441 to regular. Who dreamed up a carb set up that has no fast idle? Makes sstarting warm a crap shoot.

AT on the Husky's still has a fast idle setting. Theres no fast idle on the Mtronics?

 

[LondonNeil]

Is there a wood they looks like black locust but is a git to split? Last load I collected from my tree guy, he said 'there's false acacia on the pile' .The bark looked like black locust, the wood colour had that yellow look, I thought it was.... Right up until the X27 bounced off repeatedly. I'd started with the x17 thinking it would pop easy. Ended up battling it with the stihl pro maul and managing to quarter the rounds and toss aside to dry more in the hope they pop easier when dry. Even when they did pop, and it was a battle, a real battle, it was a little stringy and the hatchet was needed for freeing the quarters. I'm falling out of love with locust unless I can determine how to ID this deviant somehow... Always harder when I just see rounds/logs.

 

[Philbert]

Harbor Freight recalls 1 million chainsaws for defective switch.

https://www.fox25boston.com/news/ha...lion-chainsaws-due-to-injury-hazard/749710851

Philbert

 

[Marine5068]

Is there a wood they looks like black locust but is a git to split? Last load I collected from my tree guy, he said 'there's false acacia on the pile' .The bark looked like black locust, the wood colour had that yellow look, I thought it was.... Right up until the X27 bounced off repeatedly. I'd started with the x17 thinking it would pop easy. Ended up battling it with the stihl pro maul and managing to quarter the rounds and toss aside to dry more in the hope they pop easier when dry. Even when they did pop, and it was a battle, a real battle, it was a little stringy and the hatchet was needed for freeing the quarters. I'm falling out of love with locust unless I can determine how to ID this deviant somehow... Always harder when I just see rounds/logs.

Sounds like you may need a small electric splitter.
I have one and love it.

 

[turnkey4099]

AT on the Husky's still has a fast idle setting. Theres no fast idle on the Mtronics?

none that I have found. I asked the dealer to turn up the idle speed. He said that can't be done without major, major mods.

 

[Marine5068]

Put the MS291 to work today on some Red Oaks I dropped.

 

[turnkey4099]

Is there a wood they looks like black locust but is a git to split? Last load I collected from my tree guy, he said 'there's false acacia on the pile' .The bark looked like black locust, the wood colour had that yellow look, I thought it was.... Right up until the X27 bounced off repeatedly. I'd started with the x17 thinking it would pop easy. Ended up battling it with the stihl pro maul and managing to quarter the rounds and toss aside to dry more in the hope they pop easier when dry. Even when they did pop, and it was a battle, a real battle, it was a little stringy and the hatchet was needed for freeing the quarters. I'm falling out of love with locust unless I can determine how to ID this deviant somehow... Always harder when I just see rounds/logs.

I have run into the occasional one or two trees out of a grave of bl that doesn't split easily, once even an entire grove.

 

[KiwiBro]

Was the mtronic faulty or do you just like an idle faster than manufacturer recommends?
Providing parts are available, I'm struggling to understand how swapping them out is considered major, unless the dealer is talking costs (it is Stihl after all)

 

[farmer steve]

iv'e had no issues with my 241. idles just fine. i run it pretty hard in the year or so i've had it.

 

[rarefish383]

I took down a 70' White Pine for my neighbor Saturday and I've been using my 1980's Homelite 150 Automatic for all of the limbing and wood up to about 12-14 inch. It's amazing how that little 43CC saw with 3/8 chain can eat some wood, if you call White Pine wood. A couple weeks ago it was freezing and today it was 90, thought I was going to have a heat stroke. The other funny thing, you take a tree down, and it takes all the shade with it.

 

[KiwiBro]

I took down a 70' White Pine for my neighbor Saturday and I've been using my 1980's Homelite 150 Automatic for all of the limbing and wood up to about 12-14 inch. It's amazing how that little 43CC saw with 3/8 chain can eat some wood, if you call White Pine wood. A couple weeks ago it was freezing and today it was 90, thought I was going to have a heat stroke. The other funny thing, you take a tree down, and it takes all the shade with it.

 

[LondonNeil]

Sounds like you may need a small electric splitter.
I have one and love it.
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I keep thinking about that. The cheap ones (~ £120) are 4 or 5 tonne and i suspect work fine on easy splitting stuff but then so does an axe. The 7 tonne stuff is still affordable at about £250-£300 and I'd get one if I knew it would deal with everything my axe or maul can't....but its a bit much on a gamble...I'd hate to find it still couldn't deal with the big gnarly crotchy bits or such like. In the mean time, tough bits (like some of the bone dry apple I've just been swinging the stihl maul at) get set aside, and from time to time the big saw gets to chew on them which is fun, and gets it done.

I have run into the occasional one or two trees out of a grave of bl that doesn't split easily, once even an entire grove.

I suspected as much....its just 'yard tree syndrome' probably, I get alot of that

 

[95custmz]

I keep thinking about that. The cheap ones (~ £120) are 4 or 5 tonne and i suspect work fine on easy splitting stuff but then so does an axe. The 7 tonne stuff is still affordable at about £250-£300 and I'd get one if I knew it would deal with everything my axe or maul can't....but its a bit much on a gamble...I'd hate to find it still couldn't deal with the big gnarly crotchy bits or such like. In the mean time, tough bits (like some of the bone dry apple I've just been swinging the stihl maul at) get set aside, and from time to time the big saw gets to chew on them which is fun, and gets it done.

I suspected as much....its just 'yard tree syndrome' probably, I get alot of that

Could it possibly be Iron wood?

 

[dancan]

I DON'T like the mtronic. My dealer says he sells only the regular carb ones. I'll be talking to him to see if he can change my 441 to regular. Who dreamed up a carb set up that has no fast idle? Makes sstarting warm a crap shoot.

I've only ever had one no-start issue with my 241 and that was because some guy I know was slack on his maintenance and ran it till the airfilter was plugged ...
I've run gallons through mine , lotsa gallons and zero buyers remorse or starting issues , warm or cold , cept that one time I lent it to Mr.Dumass lol

 

[woodchip rookie]

cept that one time I lent it to Mr.Dumass lol

You must have me cornfuzed with somebody else. I have never borrowed your 241

 

[Cody]

none that I have found. I asked the dealer to turn up the idle speed. He said that can't be done without major, major mods.

I don't understand why you'd need a fast idle option. The idea behind these saws is for them to run at the ideal rpm under any circumstance. In colder weather I'll leave it in the start position for a bit longer otherwise once they're running they should be good to go.

 

[turnkey4099]

Was the mtronic faulty or do you just like an idle faster than manufacturer recommends?
Providing parts are available, I'm struggling to understand how swapping them out is considered major, unless the dealer is talking costs (it is Stihl after all)

With no 'fast idle' setting that I have found, starting it warm is a crap shoot That was the problem I had when it failed It would start and go about 4 revs - not enough time for me to get on the throttle to catch it

 

[turnkey4099]

I've only ever had one no-start issue with my 241 and that was because some guy I know was slack on his maintenance and ran it till the airfilter was plugged ...
I've run gallons through mine , lotsa gallons and zero buyers remorse or starting issues , warm or cold , cept that one time I lent it to Mr.Dumass lol

I really had no problems with the 441 until it failed me the other day but I was always wondering about it

 

[turnkey4099]

I don't understand why you'd need a fast idle option. The idea behind these saws is for them to run at the ideal rpm under any circumstance. In colder weather I'll leave it in the start position for a bit longer otherwise once they're running they should be good to go.

There is no "start" position only choke and run

 

[Cowboy254]

There is no "start" position only choke and run

Don't think the 441 is Mtronic, is it?

I made the mistake of trying to start the 661 (which is Mtronic'd) in the start position when it was warm - cough, splutter, die. Hey that was what the dealer told me to do, and I didn't know any better. Wasn't until I worked out to keep the switch in 'Run' to start when warm that the 661 would start reliably when warm . Wasn't the saw's fault, it was user error on my part.