Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[sean donato]

Well said Chipper! Well said indeed! Now, I Am as Stihl guy and a faithful one. I started running Stihl's 25+ years ago and Stihl running them today! However not a snob about it. I do realize that Huskies are great saws! I'm a Stihl guy because that's all I've ever run. With the exception of course of my first "Pro Felling Saw." An old ported 288XP and let me tell ya what! That saw had a set of stones on it I'll tell ya! Awsome Power and unbelievably fast throttle response! I sold it when I left the Dark Empire and joined Stihl and the rebel forces! This was in 98 that I sold that 288. And unbelievably, it found its way back to me a year ago! And Stihl running!!! It must be destiny. I'll save that story for another day!

Now what we have here is a good example of Stihl's pro line up! Some newer and and some older. All 50cc to 120cc. A 260, 360, 046, 660, and last but certainly not least the 088! Then we have the Lone Vagabond Nomad! 288XP with her sawed off spruce limb for a pull cord handle and stripped out bolt holes for the plastic shroud. Now I mean they are stripped out beonde repair!!! However, I Stihl run her every now and then. But only in the winter time on the coldest of coldest days god bless her heart! She actually Stihl dose alright too! At least....


...for a Husky!


View attachment 994445So I'm definitely not a Stihl snob. I actually like them both but just prefer Stihl. But one saw you'll never see in my arsenal is one of them thar Poulan's! Last time I ran one of them. I had to keep Poulan and Poulan and Poulan and Poulan! Just to get it started!!! Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

Just buying a new stihl I sent one of my buddies a pic of it. He asked me how many pulls it took to start it. I replied 3 if it's been sitting for a few days, one or two if I had it running that day. His reply was you'll stihl be pulling that saw over after I have my first tree down you trader. Lol. Sadly being the owner of a 026, 031 and an 084... none of them were wonderful starters for various reasons. Save the 031 the other two are very good runners once you get them fired. The 026 suffers from work out choke syndrome and the 084 should have a kick starter. My dad got it on a trade deal with a kid that moved back east and used it out west on big timber. Supposedly it's been ported and what not. Tell you this much even with the decomp it'll get your fingers if tour not careful. Nasty thing. We ended up giving it to my cousin (he was in on the trade deal) and he can only get it started every now and then.

 

[LondonNeil]

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Just buying a new stihl I sent one of my buddies a pic of it. He asked me how many pulls it took to start it. I replied 3 if it's been sitting for a few days, one or two if I had it running that day. His reply was you'll stihl be pulling that saw over after I have my first tree down you trader. Lol. Sadly being the owner of a 026, 031 and an 084... none of them were wonderful starters for various reasons. Save the 031 the other two are very good runners once you get them fired. The 026 suffers from work out choke syndrome and the 084 should have a kick starter. My dad got it on a trade deal with a kid that moved back east and used it out west on big timber. Supposedly it's been ported and what not. Tell you this much even with the decomp it'll get your fingers if tour not careful. Nasty thing. We ended up giving it to my cousin (he was in on the trade deal) and he can only get it started every now and then.

Good info fo sho! So I had issues with my 260PRO for a bit also. The carb was set all funky from the factory. I couldn't set it right for the life of me. I read service manuals looked on the internet and everything. My buddy just happened to stop by one day and had an older 026 in his pickup I axed to use it for a second or two. He of course said yes so I took it and put a small flat head to the carb backing out all adjustment screws while counting revolutions and writing each adjustment down after re setting them. Then match my carb settings on the 260 to his 026. It actually worked! Ran better after that than it ever did and Stihl dose! I don't even know if the carbs on the two saws are the same? I just thought I'd give it a shot and it worked out!

My 088 is also a beast to start. Like your 084, even with the decomp. Plus, I'm no small man or softy by any means! However, there is a trick to my 088 at getting it to fire off! It doesn't like to be choked for more than a pull or two. It won't even fire on full choke. After the second pull on full choke I go to warm start. (I of course set the brake!!!) After three or four pulls she lights off every time! Sometimes five or six, but she will always fire. I don't know if all 088's are like mine or not, or the 084 and 880 when it comes to lighting off?

Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

 

[JustJeff]

Got tired of reading the odd wood related post without anything to show for myself. Finally got the big ash log cut today. Good thing my saw is a 460 magnum and not just a regular ms460 or it might have been harder . Lol!!! Now to drag the splitter out!

 

[Lee192233]

Got tired of reading the odd wood related post without anything to show for myself. Finally got the big ash log cut today. Good thing my saw is a 460 magnum and not just a regular ms460 or it might have been harder . Lol!!! Now to drag the splitter out!
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Good work! Now the real fun begins. Love my MS460 also. Really perfect with the 24" bar on it.

 

[sean donato]

Good info fo sho! So I had issues with my 260PRO for a bit also. The carb was set all funky from the factory. I couldn't set it right for the life of me. I read service manuals looked on the internet and everything. My buddy just happened to stop by one day and had an older 026 in his pickup I axed to use it for a second or two. He of course said yes so I took it and put a small flat head to the carb backing out all adjustment screws while counting revolutions and writing each adjustment down after re setting them. Then match my carb settings on the 260 to his 026. It actually worked! Ran better after that than it ever did and Stihl dose! I don't even know if the carbs on the two saws are the same? I just thought I'd give it a shot and it worked out!

My 088 is also a beast to start. Like your 084, even with the decomp. Plus, I'm no small man or softy by any means! However, there is a trick to my 088 at getting it to fire off! It doesn't like to be choked for more than a pull or two. It won't even fire on full choke. After the second pull on full choke I go to warm start. (I of course set the brake!!!) After three or four pulls she lights off every time! Sometimes five or six, but she will always fire. I don't know if all 088's are like mine or not, or the 084 and 880 when it comes to lighting off?

Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

It's arguably the hardest starting saw I've ever messed with. Actually I'll let that sit and use the 394xp. It's only a little slower in 36" trim then the 084. I'm a pusy lol.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Can any of you Corn Husk'n Husky Hackers tell me what year the 288XP was introduced? I really don't know myself? I'm sure I could research it and find out, but figured a lot of all you Husky guys could probably tell me.



And also, dose anyone know what these air filters are for?

 

[Kodiak Kid]

It's arguably the hardest starting saw I've ever messed with. Actually I'll let that sit and use the 394xp. It's only a little slower in 36" trim then the 084. I'm a pusy lol.

Yeah, I've never ran one, but I've been told by a few cutters. That have ran many different big saws. The 394 is a hand held Husky powerplant of a saw!

 

[Sierra_rider]

I started out as kind of a Husky guy...most of my recent acquisitions have been Stihls, so I look like a Stihl guy to the casual observer. Most of my saws are pretty easy to start...a couple of pulls to "pop" and another to start.

Even the 880 is easy to get to fire, just have to do the drop start over a log method...the ANSI/OSHA approved techniques don't work on big, high compression saws. My 066, 2 044s, 372 are the same way...I own a lathe, so most of my saws get a compression bump and get ported. Even my little ms400 is kind of a stiff pull. The 500i is still stock, but I'll fix that up when I have the time.

Oddly enough, my hardest saw to start is one of my smaller ones. I've got a mk1 550xp that is often a temperamental little bastard. It's easy enough to pull, just never know how many pulls that's going to take.

My other 2 small saws start quite easily. The m-tronic 201tcm is a breeze to start. My Echo 2511t is also pretty easy to start.

 

[JustPlainJeff]

Got tired of reading the odd wood related post without anything to show for myself. Finally got the big ash log cut today. Good thing my saw is a 460 magnum and not just a regular ms460 or it might have been harder . Lol!!! Now to drag the splitter out!
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That's a big boy! Nice.

 

[JustPlainJeff]

No firewood scrounging today. I just added the last (and most important) piece to my he-man women haters club man-cave!!! Damn people were out of the Jager though, damn supply chain shortages LOL!

 

[JustJeff]

Was starting to rain as I finished cutting so I packed up and went in for supper. After dinner it cleared up so out came the splitter. I only split 4 rounds but got over a facecord out of them. Worked till sundown. I can smell the fresh cut and split wood in the yard!

 

[JustPlainJeff]

Nice!

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I thought it was going to be a wood cutting/splitting day, but it ended up being a rotary cutting day!

At least, I made some decent money on that job!

SR

 

[Sierra_rider]

No firewood scrounging today. I just added the last (and most important) piece to my he-man women haters club man-cave!!! Damn people were out of the Jager though, damn supply chain shortages LOL!View attachment 994556View attachment 994557

The mini fridge is one of the most important tools in my shop...

 

[JustPlainJeff]

The mini fridge is one of the most important tools in my shop...
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No argument from me there.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Stumps from trees fell with a "Soft Dutchman" or
"Swinging Dutchman" also known as a Swing Cut .
Note: No unintentional bypass cuts creating a hard dutchman in front of the hinge wood. And some of the back cut wood is not attached to the stump because of the intentional bypass SD. If you look close you can see a kerf in between the SD and BC. This will often easily break right off if the tree happens to shoot back and hit the back cut!
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Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

So I've shared info advice and opinions on The two different major types of Dutchman cuts and provided some pics of some stumps with Soft Dutchman's.
I was out getting some range time in with a couple firearms in one of my favorite spots to shoot. In a gravel pit out in one of the clear cuts in the area I live. I noticed some good examples of the "Full Face Dutchman" or Hard Dutchman, so I figured I'd share them with you.

The stumps in these pictures are sun bleached so bare with me on this. But if you know what your looking for you'll see the FFD (full face dutchman) in every one of these stumps!

On this stump the unintentional bypass cut is in the top cut because it passes the bottom cut. It is not a deep FFD but it's a FFD none the less!



This is a great example of a professional fallers sloppy attempt at a swing cut! When cutting this tree you'll notice on his inside corner three different cuts. An unintentional bypass in his top cut and bottom cut (basically criss crossing) and a soft dutchman way to close to his inside corner and way to far in twords the back side of the stump! These three screw ups created a FFD! However, because of the way these bypass cuts were exacuted! just any one of these three individual bypass cuts, weather intentional or not will produce a FFD
The two most common results from a FFD is hinge wood breaking off prematurely or it will force a tree trunk to split up the middle and chair! Both results causing instantaneous loss of felling control! If you know what your looking for? You can tell a lot by a cutters stump. I was told long ago when learn the basics from a Master level OG faller that "Nothing but death happens with a Full Face Dutchman"! Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

No argument from me there.

Me neither! I have one in my man cave also!

 

[WoodAbuser]

Was starting to rain as I finished cutting so I packed up and went in for supper. After dinner it cleared up so out came the splitter. I only split 4 rounds but got over a facecord out of them. Worked till sundown. I can smell the fresh cut and split wood in the yard!
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I don't have a splitter. That's why lots of noodles appeared at my place.

 

[Brufab]

A search shows both ways, hmmm. To each his own.

I always go about 1" high from the face, seems to work good, not sure where I learned that or why in do it but been doing it for 30 years.