Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[chipper1]

Don't know if anyone is in NE OH, but I just saw this on another site. I can get more details if needed.

 

[JimR]

Well I believe I found why the splitter was leaking!!!View attachment 1021218

You may be able to add an external wiper seal over that if it was caused by chips.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Here's the tree that chaired on me the other day. About a 24" spruce approximately 100' tall.
Its pretty self explanatory what happened, but for those that can't see why it chaired. I'll explain.

It chaired because I screwed up!!!
The tree laying in front of the stump is not the tree off that stump. It was fell first and bounced over in front of the tree that was standing before I chaired it. The tree laying on the ground right next to the stump that is also far behind the stump, played no part in the senerio. It was fell long afterwards. The tree laying on top, that's ripped in half is the tree off that stump.
When the tree just started to commit. It contacted the tree that was down in front of it. Thus causing forward resistance to the wood infront of the hinge while the tree top had forward momentum and the wood behind the hinge started to spring load. (Just as if the face cut had closed down on a hard full face Dutchman) Then instantly, POW!!! Up she ripped and away I ran!

I knew the tree was going to contact the downed timber before the face was even close to being closed and that there was a good chance it would chair, but I thought if I cut fast and left just a very narrow and weak hinge, that It would break off the stump once it hit the butt off the downed timber.

WRONG!!!

Im not to proud to admit I pulled a rookie move!
I should have just high stumped it then flushed the stump lower afterwards.

This is a close of of the stump after I flushed off some bigger splinters and slabs.

Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

 

[Vtrombly]

Here's the tree that chaired on me the other day. About a 24" spruce approximately 100' tall.View attachment 1021411View attachment 1021412
Its pretty self explanatory what happened, but for those that can't see why it chaired. I'll explain.

It chaired because I screwed up!!!
The tree laying in front of the stump is not the tree off that stump. It was fell first and bounced over infront if the tree that was standing before I chaired it. The tree laying on the ground right next to the stump that is also far behind the stump, played no part in the senerio. It was fell long afterwards. The tree laying on top that's ripped in half is the tree off that stump.
When the tree just started to commit. It contacted the tree that was down in front of it. Thus causing forward resistance to the wood infront of the hinge while the tree top had forward momentum and the wood behind the hinge started to spring load. Then instantly, POW!!! Up she ripped and away I ran! View attachment 1021413

I knew the tree was going to contact the downed timber before the face was even close to being closed and that there was a good chance it would chair, but I thought if I cut fast and left just a very narrow and weak hinge, that It would break of the stump once it hit the butt off the downed timber.

WRONG!!!

Im not to proud to admit I pulled a rookie move!
I should have just high stumped it then flushed the stump lower afterwards.

This is a close of of the stump after I flushed off some bigger splinters and slabs. View attachment 1021414

Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

Glad your ok Kodiak, That makes my butt pucker just looking at that!

 

[501Maico]

Here's the tree that chaired on me the other day. About a 24" spruce approximately 100' tall.View attachment 1021411View attachment 1021412
Its pretty self explanatory what happened, but for those that can't see why it chaired. I'll explain.

It chaired because I screwed up!!!
The tree laying in front of the stump is not the tree off that stump. It was fell first and bounced over infront if the tree that was standing before I chaired it. The tree laying on the ground right next to the stump that is also far behind the stump, played no part in the senerio. It was fell long afterwards. The tree laying on top that's ripped in half is the tree off that stump.
When the tree just started to commit. It contacted the tree that was down in front of it. Thus causing forward resistance to the wood infront of the hinge while the tree top had forward momentum and the wood behind the hinge started to spring load. Then instantly, POW!!! Up she ripped and away I ran! View attachment 1021413

I knew the tree was going to contact the downed timber before the face was even close to being closed and that there was a good chance it would chair, but I thought if I cut fast and left just a very narrow and weak hinge, that It would break of the stump once it hit the butt off the downed timber.

WRONG!!!

Im not to proud to admit I pulled a rookie move!
I should have just high stumped it then flushed the stump lower afterwards.

This is a close of of the stump after I flushed off some bigger splinters and slabs. View attachment 1021414

Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

Great post and good description KK. Not that the outcome would be different but I'm curious about what looks like an unfinished Humboldt on the stump.

 

[JustJeff]

Kind of amusing to read that on an arborist site.

Yeah no kidding! Lol. I'm a welder not an arborist, although I have learned a lot from the people on this site. Mostly that the answer to every "what saw should I get for cutting fallen limbs" question is, a Dolmar 7900. And that 4 chainsaws is the bare minimum. Ha ha. In all seriousness though, pruning apples is a sub specialty that most tree guys shy away from. A lot of apples grown here in the area and there are people who specialize in their care. Kind of interesting watching the evolution of orchards from full size trees to dwarves like mine to super dwarf trees that are cabled and staked in rows in high density.

 

[bob kern]

You may be able to add an external wiper seal over that if it was caused by chips.

Thanks. The inner seal was completely toast. It basically broke down and was in no less that 20 pieces. I think it just let pressure through where it wasn't intended to be and the wiper just couldn't hold it back.

 

[svk]

Good morning guys. I had another great weekend with the kids and one of their friends at the cabin. My middle son got his first duck as did their friend.

On Friday we had picked up my numbers sequential black pew pews and four of the kids shot theirs at targets.

 

[chipper1]

Yeah no kidding! Lol. I'm a welder not an arborist, although I have learned a lot from the people on this site. Mostly that the answer to every "what saw should I get for cutting fallen limbs" question is, a Dolmar 7900. And that 4 chainsaws is the bare minimum. Ha ha. In all seriousness though, pruning apples is a sub specialty that most tree guys shy away from. A lot of apples grown here in the area and there are people who specialize in their care. Kind of interesting watching the evolution of orchards from full size trees to dwarves like mine to super dwarf trees that are cabled and staked in rows in high density.

And if that 7900 is ported you'll probably be better off too .
Had someone ask about pruning a peach tree last night, it's overloaded and has broken branches, many like that here in West MI this yr.
We have a lot of orchards around here too, many have the super dwarfs, amazing how many apples are on those little guys. No apple or fruit trees at the house, but we have connections for the apples, the wife snagged a bunch, the kitchen island has been full since the middle of last week. Cider and dried slices were yesterday, she made a couple gallons, and lots of canned applesauce during the week, not sure what her plan is now.

 

[JimR]

Thanks. The inner seal was completely toast. It basically broke down and was in no less that 20 pieces. I think it just let pressure through where it wasn't intended to be and the wiper just couldn't hold it back.

That really stinks. I think I have only had to rebuild one piston for a internal seal leak. That was on the bucket for an old 8N I owned many years ago.

 

[Squareground3691]

And if that 7900 is ported you'll probably be better off too .
Had someone ask about pruning a peach tree last night, it's overloaded and has broken branches, many like that here in West MI this yr.
We have a lot of orchards around here too, many have the super dwarfs, amazing how many apples are on those little guys. No apple or fruit trees at the house, but we have connections for the apples, the wife snagged a bunch, the kitchen island has been full since the middle of last week. Cider and dried slices were yesterday, she made a couple gallons, and lots of canned applesauce during the week, not sure what her plan is now.

Think Brett you know this one very well .

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Great post and good description KK. Not that the outcome would be different but I'm curious about what looks like an unfinished Humboldt on the stump.

If you look closely, you'll see that the Humboldt closed a bit while commiting and that is where the tree contacted the downed timber and then chaired. After I flushed off the mess off the stump. The face stayed at that angle. If that makes any sense?

 

[chipper1]

Think Brett you know this one very well .

Yep, miss that wrap handle. I only have the ported 7900 now, well in the dolmars, also have a makita 4300 and a couple 6421 parts saws.
The jred 2252 is ready to do a bit of cutting either today or tomorrow out back, then I have a couple bigger box elder to drop at a friends that is getting bucked up for bonfire wood(tomorrow on those).

 

[MustangMike]

then I have a couple bigger box elder to drop

Talk about speed wood!!!

 

[GrizG]

Yeah no kidding! Lol. I'm a welder not an arborist, although I have learned a lot from the people on this site. Mostly that the answer to every "what saw should I get for cutting fallen limbs" question is, a Dolmar 7900. And that 4 chainsaws is the bare minimum. Ha ha. In all seriousness though, pruning apples is a sub specialty that most tree guys shy away from. A lot of apples grown here in the area and there are people who specialize in their care. Kind of interesting watching the evolution of orchards from full size trees to dwarves like mine to super dwarf trees that are cabled and staked in rows in high density.

I had a half dozen peach trees that needed pruning and fruit thinning... time consuming and yielded way more fruit than we could use or even give away! Apples would have been better as they have a longer shelf life.

 

[sean donato]

I had a half dozen peach trees that needed pruning and fruit thinning... time consuming and yielded way more fruit than we could use or even give away! Apples would have been better as they have a longer shelf life.

Store them with your potatoes, pretty sure they will last forever. Used to do that back on the farm.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I had a half dozen peach trees that needed pruning and fruit thinning... time consuming and yielded way more fruit than we could use or even give away! Apples would have been better as they have a longer shelf life.

When I have more peaches than I can use up fast enough, I can the extras for later use! They freeze well too.

SR

 

[turnkey4099]

End of the lifting weight restriction (10lbs) after the hernia surgery 2 weeks ago today. I made 3 hours bucking, noodling, loading a 40' willow log. Tried loading a few whole but decided that was pushing things a bit.

Trouble with a 20" chain on the MS362. I have sharpened it twice now and it will cut sorta okay but needs down pressure to do it. All most new chain, only be sharped 3 times so far. It wouldn't noodle at all. Back on the bench it goes and a good examination to see what the problem is. Probably misset the filing jig.

Tomorrow I'll stake out T-posts 20' apart, position splitter and split/pile as I unload. Feels good to get back to real work vice just cutting brush. Stamina still needs to be upped - I was forcing myself to finish the log during he last half hour.

 

[chipper1]

End of the lifting weight restriction (10lbs) after the hernia surgery 2 weeks ago today. I made 3 hours bucking, noodling, loading a 40' willow log. Tried loading a few whole but decided that was pushing things a bit.

Trouble with a 20" chain on the MS362. I have sharpened it twice now and it will cut sorta okay but needs down pressure to do it. All most new chain, only be sharped 3 times so far. It wouldn't noodle at all. Back on the bench it goes and a good examination to see what the problem is. Probably misset the filing jig.

Tomorrow I'll stake out T-posts 20' apart, position splitter and split/pile as I unload. Feels good to get back to real work vice just cutting brush. Stamina still needs to be upped - I was forcing myself to finish the log during he last half hour.

Good to hear you're back at it.
Be careful out there, sounds like you got a good workout as it is.

 

[chipper1]

Talk about speed wood!!!

Yep, it is. I diced up all the ones I pulled up from the woods minus about three bucking cuts on one tank with the ms200 rear handle. The chips looked like they were from a standard 3/8 chain, not the 3/8 picco on there. I probably would have made it thru those last cuts if I would have touched the chain up before starting.
That saw sure sounds good, but my ms201 rear handle is much more efficient on fuel, and had more power.