Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[Kodiak Kid]

I went to my local hunting spot today, into my climbing tree stand with my crossbow.

The landowner, who usually tells me to "get rid of some of the deer" tells me he has only seen one buck once, and thinks he saw it dead alongside the road today, and has seen a doe twice, so I was not real optimistic. He has 9 acres, 5 wooded, 4 lawn. Usually, he is complaining about the deer eating the bushes by his house, but nothing this year! I think the deer use his wooded acres as a staging area before going onto the lawns at night, and it has been a productive spot for me hunting it right before dark.

Sunset was 4:40 so I'm allowed to hunt till 5:10, but it gets too dark by then. At 10 of 5 I see a deer moving, but it disappears. Not knowing if it was a buck or doe, I do 2 brief fawn bleats. I see the deer again, it is feeding, but working in my direction. Time is not on my side. As it gets closer, I can't count the points, but is has a very nice rack. However, it is facing towards me with its head down. I wait and wait, it is 35 yds away, and finally turns broadside.

I let fly and hear a thwack. The deer goes 30 yds to the left and away, then does a 180 about 60 yds away going to the right in thick stuff and disappears.

I climb down, put on my headlamp and search and search and search. So many pricker bushes and vines, my bolt may not have gone through clean. I can't find any evidence of a hit. I'll go back tomorrow morning in the daylight and search again. Right now, very disappointed. It was a nice buck, and I know the pickings are slim in this area this year.

On the other side of the coin, I'm very pleased that I saw such a nice buck when the landowner's assessment was so bleak. Hopefully, I will either find it, or see it again.

Hope you cut a blood trail and find that buck piled up!

 

[jellyroll]

What's a "face" cord?

8 ft wide x 4 ft high 20 inches deep about 1/3 of a full cord. Most people go by the measurement of rick here where i live.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

8 ft wide x 4 ft high 20 inches deep about 1/3 of a full cord. Most people go by the measurement of rick here where i live.

Oh, ok roger. Thats a "rick" where Im at too. Never heard it called a face cord.

 

[Lionsfan]

No such thing as a rick in my hood, 4'x8'x16" is a face cord.

 

[MustangMike]

A face cord is 4' X 8' of whatever length firewood you burn (usually 16, 18, or 20").

Going by 16", it is 1/3 of a cord.

 

[MustangMike]

Relief!!!

I found my bolt this morning, there is no blood on it, that nice buck is still alive and well out there! It was buried in the ground with just the fletching showing, with two of the three blades broken, but the bolt looks OK.

He was in some very thick prickers, many of them reaching over 6' tall. Mixed bag, that is likely why he was there, but tough for arrows and bolts to go through. My shotgun or MZ would not have had any problems with it!

Now the carrot is on the end of the stick and I'm sure I'll be chasing!

 

[MustangMike]

Very disappointed (with few exceptions) with NY and PA results this morning. I'll leave it there.

 

[Lionsfan]

I agree with SVK, I shrugged my shoulders, put my boots on and headed off to work.

 

[svk]

The interesting thing is the old blue strongholds in this state are now gone...races that used to be 70/30 to 65/35 even 15 years ago are now being decided from 53/47 to 50.1 to 49.9.....the only way that some folks won in statewide election was because of the imports on the north end of the metro.

 

[JimR]

The interesting thing is the old strongholds in this state are now gone...races that used to be 70/30 to 65/35 even 15 years ago are now being decided from 53/47 to 50.1 to 49.9.....the only way that some folks won in statewide election was because of the imports on the north end of the metro.

It is a sad day in America. On the bright side here is a great story about saving the Ash trees. https://www.mainepublic.org/2022-10...sts-hope-will-save-some-of-vermonts-ash-trees

 

[JimR]

A good story about forest regeneration. https://www.mountgrace.org/about/news/post/forest-stewardship-seeding-strategies

 

[djg james]

Relief!!!

I found my bolt this morning, there is no blood on it, that nice buck is still alive and well out there! It was buried in the ground with just the fletching showing, with two of the three blades broken, but the bolt looks OK.

He was in some very thick prickers, many of them reaching over 6' tall. Mixed bag, that is likely why he was there, but tough for arrows and bolts to go through. My shotgun or MZ would not have had any problems with it!

Now the carrot is on the end of the stick and I'm sure I'll be chasing!

Good to hear, I guess. At least it's not marginally wounded and still alive out there. Brother had an arrow deflected once by a small branch he didn't see in the early light. It too is pretty woolly where he hunts.

 

[SimonHS]

It is a sad day in America. On the bright side here is a great story about saving the Ash trees. https://www.mainepublic.org/2022-10...sts-hope-will-save-some-of-vermonts-ash-trees

That is good news. I hope that the wasps are successful.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Relief!!!

I found my bolt this morning, there is no blood on it, that nice buck is still alive and well out there! It was buried in the ground with just the fletching showing, with two of the three blades broken, but the bolt looks OK.

He was in some very thick prickers, many of them reaching over 6' tall. Mixed bag, that is likely why he was there, but tough for arrows and bolts to go through. My shotgun or MZ would not have had any problems with it!

Now the carrot is on the end of the stick and I'm sure I'll be chasing!

I sure would be chasing that carrot! I've been known to chase one before.

 

[mountainguyed67]

8 ft wide x 4 ft high 20 inches deep about 1/3 of a full cord. Most people go by the measurement of rick here where i live.

Neither are used here, it’s cord or fractions of.

 

[chipper1]

Neither are used here, it’s cord or fractions of.

Many municipalities have outlawed the sale of anything other than a cord. That being 128 cubic ft of wood, typically measuring 4x4x8. This helps make court cases easier to settle, to bad those who would screw someone over care nothing about these things; similar to gun laws .

 

[mountainguyed67]

Yes, like those. I have seen them up close many times while on vacation out West, up in B.C. and Alberta.

One of these puts a whole lot of wood on the ground at once. My loader is big enough that I move a lot of it at in one shot, the whole tree if it’s not too hard to navigate standing trees. We’ve been hauling it away to keep it from piling up. At some point we’ll build a woodshed to put some in for ourselves.

 

[mountainguyed67]

That is the plan. I noticed a few of the wheel spokes go right up into the tree. This will be fun to free up.

Post when you do it.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Around here firewood cutters sell cords. No half cords or ricks. Although I know what a rick is, I've never seen firewood sold by the rick. However, I may be wrong because I don't sell firewood. I cut a lot of it, but I also give a lot of it to the elders in my community that are simply to old to get there own. We sure as hell don't have any firewood laws where I live, or court battles over it!!! If its on public land and dead or washed up on the beaches. Its first come first serve. If its on Alaskan Indian land? Its 20$ a cord for standing dead and windfall. Being as my squaw is Alaska Indian. I'm waved of the 20$ charge on Native land, but only if she is physically with me and present while I'm on the scrounge. So I usually bring her along and she watches from a safe distance when I drop a few big snags then I take her back home, or she hijacks my wheeler while Im bucking then comes back fir me.

Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

 

[Philbert]

Selling of firewood by cords, face cords, ricks, bundles, loggers’ cord, etc., has been discussed in this forum as long as I have been here.

The way that a cord is stacked also plays a role in how much wood there is in it. Some have a lot of air! Split wood can be packed tighter.

I have seen firewood also sold by weight, but this would be affected by how green or wet it is, species, etc.

There will always be some variance.

Philbert