Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[dancan]

Supreme is non ethanol up here , I mix 2 gallons 40:1 at a time and that can last from 2 to 6 weeks depending if I'm doing falling , blocking or running the FS550 a lot .
I'll run any of the branded mix and not worry about it , of all the saw threads show me one that was really an oil problem .
I just finished splitting last weekend's scrounge , I guess I'd better scrounge up some more this weekend

 

[svk]

I love 110!

 

[svk]

of all the saw threads show me one that was really an oil problem .

Well when a reasonable oil ratio was used, none.

There was a guy in chainsaw a couple weeks ago who blew up his saw using Amsoil at 100:1. Did I mention he was an Amsoil distributor too?

Although when Phillips 66 put Injex out in the late 90's we sure had a lot of problems with blown snowmobile engines.

 

[benp]

I love 110!

I'm lucky to have this in town.

 

[svk]

I bought a barrel of 110 back in the day. 3 bucks a gallon when gas was 1.19.

 

[nomad_archer]

Interesting. I think Stihl was cheaper at my hardware store.

This hardware store is just setting up the stihl displays. They don't have any product. The other local stihl hardware store dealers are $14-$15 for a six pack of stihl ultra. The qt of amsoil oil was $12 and some change.

 

[nomad_archer]

Baby bottles work great for measuring. And got a lid to keep dirt and stuff when not in use.

You are a genius. I have tons of those around with a second kiddo on the way.

 

[nomad_archer]

No biggie SVK.
Lets be real guys.
There are very few in this thread that use a saw enough to be very concerned about any of this.
The build-up only comes after much use, not a few tanks a month, nut a few tanks a day.
I believe the same with any issues on saws running 50:1.
We run a greater risk of accidentally straight gassing a saw before we will ever see a problem from running 40:1 stihl ultra or running 50:1 .
Lets not get to excited, many guys have run 50:1 for many yrs 5 days a week and no problems. I'm sure the same can be said for the stihl ultra at 40:1, but I don't know of those.


This should be more of a concern than what I was talking about above.
The amount of time a fuel sits is of great concern if running ethanol.
As the ethanol separates the mix does not adhere to the ethanol molecules (this is my understanding anyway) then you are running straight ethanol, not good.
I only mix 2 gallons at a time and use it in less than a month. If this was not the case I would mix a gallon at a time.
If that didn't get used in a month I would buy ethanol free fuel and mix a gallon and make sure it was used within 3 months.
If that wasn't being used I would just by the pre-mixed cans.
Hope this helps someone.

ETHANOL WILL GIVE YOU PROBLEMS IN SMALL ENGINES NOT RUN ON A NORMAL BASIS.
THIS IS NOT MY OPINION, BUT FACT, YES I'M YELLING LOL.

I have no issues with him either.
I don't know how much research he has done, but plenty of experience, I trust experience.

There have been other things said in private conversations with me personally and others with similar experience that lead me to believe that 50:1 is fine, but they run 40:1 because they always have.

E free here all the time. 87 octane in the mowers 89 octane in the saws, blowers, and weed Wacker.

 

[MustangMike]

I don't get e free, but always get hi test (93 octane) and mix it with 2 cycle oil (which has stabilizers) right away. I generally figure my mix is good for at least 3 months. Have never had any fuel related issues. I currently (and for a while now) mix AMSOIL Saber at 40:1. When I ripped 044#1 down to delete the base gasket, there was a real nice coating of oil on the piston.

What I am doing works, and I have no plans to change.

 

[dancan]

Yup , use what works and don't sweat it , if we were running cookie cutters at the ragged edge it would be a different story .
Stock or "Woods Ported" saws will last just fine with clean gas and a good brand of mix .

I just looked at the wood I've scrounged , it looks like I'll have enough seasoned hardwood for next winter as long as I get a bit more softwood to go with .
This past weekends load and the stuff we've got in logs should be enough for 2018/19 as long as I score some more softwood to supplement which I don't think will be a problem , the hard part is juggling the stacks to keep it all in rotation , might have to label them LOL

 

[PhilMcWoody]

Does your wife know you left the good morning thread Phil.

Ha ha, Good one Brett.

At one point she did not want any more wood in the back yard, but since we burned half of it this winter, I'm allowed to scrounge again.

trouble is its all in difficult to access places or places where I can't show up with a chainsaw and start cutting without being ticketed.

I have to start saying some prayers and improve my methods. For me it's a hobby and a pleasure. If it was a necessity I would have to move elsewhere!

 

[PhilMcWoody]

Which Terry are you referring to?

I just bought two pints of Stihl ultra because I could't find the good Husky oil anywhere.

Even though Stihl Ultra production might be outsourced to a company that's a dedicated oil producer, I would trust Stihl to ensure it's made to a superior spec.(Despite the conspiracy theories). There are folk out there doing long hours of sawing in modern saws running Stihl Ultra at 50:1 with no complaints.

I'm not sure I like what looks like ash in Stihl Ultra, when I use it to make my own bike home-brew lube, lol, but even ash has its proponents.

Disclaimer: I am not trying to start an oil thread, though I do read them all.

NTTAWWT
(me too )

 

[dancan]

Ask zogger how much noise the battery powered saw makes , betcha it's stealthy

Mighty Mouse Logging LLC

 

[PhilMcWoody]

And flexibility is where a graduated oil measuring device comes in real handy!!!

I got all kinds of open graduated measuring things, but after a couple of weeks they have crap, dust and dead bugs in 'em, how do you guys keep that stuff clean for the next go round?

I end up wiping out with a rag or a paper towel and not giving a dang, but that is probably not the way to do it.

 

[PhilMcWoody]

Ask zogger how much noise the battery powered saw makes , betcha it's stealthy

Mighty Mouse Logging LLC

Hmmmm stealthy battery powered saw for stealth scrounging -- interesting concept

My 372 has no chance of being stealthy -- hear that thing for miles around here.

 

[PhilMcWoody]

You are a genius. I have tons of those around with a second kiddo on the way.

Ha mine are 18 and 21 ... enjoy those times to the max SVK, as tough as it can sometimes be.

 

[chipper1]

Ha ha, Good one Brett.

At one point she did not want any more wood in the back yard, but since we burned half of it this winter, I'm allowed to scrounge again.

trouble is its all in difficult to access places or places where I can't show up with a chainsaw and start cutting without being ticketed.

I have to start saying some prayers and improve my methods. For me it's a hobby and a pleasure. If it was a necessity I would have to move elsewhere!

I thought you'd like that Phil.
I think you need to get a battery powered saw. That would be the cat's meow for the island. I'm not joking either (I know, it's hard to believe), but I have looked pretty hard at getting one myself.
Husky of course as it seems to be the best, and I like orange.
Prayers may help, when I see all the wood the guys in this thread get you know someone is on their side.
Someone was on my side today, and it's not the guys who posted about the battery operated saw before I could hit post, guess it would have helped if I wouldn't have been on the phone lol.
This was taken before it was a full load.
I had to get it off the trailer quick so I could go get another load and forgot to take another picture. It basically looked pretty similar to the second load. Here's the second. The smaller dead standing stuff is now in my house ready to burn on cold nights. The larger piece of dead standing is bucked up and in the woodshed ready yo be split. I'm starting a new log pile with the red oak that was on these two loads for next yr or the yr after.
I will get some pictures of it later.

 

[chipper1]

Ha mine are 18 and 21 ... enjoy those times to the max SVK, as tough as it can sometimes be.

Yours are young-ins, my oldest is 27 next month and my other older daughter is 22.
It does go fast. I'm so glad I'm getting another chance at it.

 

[benp]

I got all kinds of open graduated measuring things, but after a couple of weeks they have crap, dust and dead bugs in 'em, how do you guys keep that stuff clean for the next go round?

I end up wiping out with a rag or a paper towel and not giving a dang, but that is probably not the way to do it.

My ratio rite came with a lid that snaps over the top for when not in use.

 

[JeffGu]

You can also just stuff a rag in it.

Come to think of it, my wife says that a lot...