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I've been using the stihl version of the sharpener since last summer, after you get used to the lighter hand especially with small cc saws you don't even think about it.
Unless I get into square filing I won't use any other , it takes less time to sharpen a chain and I don't have to go back over it for the rakers. Heck , no need for glasses or worrying too much about angles.

Mighty Mouse Logging LLC
 
What's done to it?

I can't imagine semi chisel getting real rammy.
Not much. Kept grind angles as per normal for me, then changed raker angles (raker depths) until went too far then got it back to good and tweaked angles and profile of the grinding disc, then releived the back of the cutters and my goal for this Summer is to play with the raker width and thickness and see what that does. Always, one thing at a time and see what happens. I only keep one chain at a time like this so that if I go too far with an idea, there are plenty of other chains I can swap to get back to productive without losing a body part or hammering the byjebus out of the saw.
 
13" large mount bar? Nuts. I like it. Come to think of it, there is a certain tendency to put longer bars on my small saw and shorter ones on my 7900. Didn't really think about that until now. That said, I don't think my 395 will see anything below 25". It's my 'stop mucking around and pay attention' saw.
 
"I believe everything there will drop you if you are bitten by it.

Isn't AUS the only country that everything there wants to kill you? Lol"


Oh yes, most things. Except for the women, they just want to love you.

I've known women like that. They just couldn't balance the loving me and/or stabbing me in the heart. Their own words.

I've been using the stihl version of the sharpener since last summer, after you get used to the lighter hand especially with small cc saws you don't even think about it.
Unless I get into square filing I won't use any other , it takes less time to sharpen a chain and I don't have to go back over it for the rakers. Heck , no need for glasses or worrying too much about angles.

Mighty Mouse Logging LLC

Awesome!! I was kinda thinking along the same lines.

Not much. Kept grind angles as per normal for me, then changed raker angles (raker depths) until went too far then got it back to good and tweaked angles and profile of the grinding disc, then releived the back of the cutters and my goal for this Summer is to play with the raker width and thickness and see what that does. Always, one thing at a time and see what happens. I only keep one chain at a time like this so that if I go too far with an idea, there are plenty of other chains I can swap to get back to productive without losing a body part or hammering the byjebus out of the saw.

sounds like a race chain you are dabbling with. Bet it would be fun.

If we ever get together to cut I'll bring my 13" large mount bar with square file. Just to see how that 394 cuts....just once.
:surprised3:

Pump the brakes there big shoots...hard no.

Straight up wrong anything under a 32" on the 394. ....
 
Any of you fellow scroungers want a nice old Dolly 112 project? Had this for sale in the tradin' post awhile back, but it got no love.
Started tearing it down for new crank seals, but since got to working on other stuff.
If you wanna fix it up for a sweet little truck/loner saw, it's yours for the cost of shipping.
Give me a shout.


 
The Pferd CS-x showed up and I got to try it out. . . . it gets the chain pretty aggressive with how much is taken off the rakers.
. . . after you get used to the lighter hand especially with small cc saws you don't even think about it.
Not sure if dancan is saying the same thing, but can you apply less pressure on the depth gauge portion to get less aggressive 'rakers'?

Philbert
 
Any of you fellow scroungers want a nice old Dolly 112 project? Had this for sale in the tradin' post awhile back, but it got no love.
Started tearing it down for new crank seals, but since got to working on other stuff.
If you wanna fix it up for a sweet little truck/loner saw, it's yours for the cost of shipping.
Give me a shout.


Wow that's a very generous offer. How far are you from Flathead Lake?
 
Not sure if dancan is saying the same thing, but can you apply less pressure on the depth gauge portion to get less aggressive 'rakers'?

Philbert
I meant less pressure on the saw in the cut but in thinking about what you're saying I do not apply much downward pressure while sharpening either , just a little back pressure on the cutters .
Since I've been running the 241 as a "do all" saw , the light hands become important especially as the day progresses .

Mighty Mouse Logging LLC
 
I meant less pressure on the saw in the cut but in thinking about what you're saying I do not apply much downward pressure while sharpening either , just a little back pressure on the cutters .
Since I've been running the 241 as a "do all" saw , the light hands become important especially as the day progresses .

Mighty Mouse Logging LLC
How long have you had the 241? Any complaints?
 
Noodled another load today, but tried using the hand truck instead of the wheelbarrow. It is easier to get them on the hand truck, but tougher to move them up the little hill with it, and going up the loading gate (also on a hill) was challenging. Sorta 6 of one and half dozen of the other!

I will say I must have a pretty good eye for length (I don't measure them). The only one sticking up is the one that did not reach the floor.

I'll have to start selling Noodles for fire starter!
 

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The big blue gum that I cut up was very green (that was back in early May). Most of it sat in a big pile at my place over winter while my wife burned her way through this year's supply, freeing up some space in the wood shed. Blue gum has a reputation for being a bit of a weed, growing like telephone poles in all sorts of unlikely spots. After sitting around for four months, when spring time arrived in September, look what happened to a lot of the smaller branch pieces.

Blue gum piece growing leaves in Sep 16.jpg

I planted this bit last week with just the leaves sticking out to see if it'd grow into more blue gum firewood.
 
How long have you had the 241? Any complaints?

I've had it for a year and a bit , no buyers remorse at all , it's light and smooth , been trouble free .
I've run 16+ gallons of fuel through it , StihlCrazy has blocked up over 60 full cords of firewood that he sells with his .
He runs a 16" 6P spur , while I run a 14" with a 6p spur , the spur gives it a little slower chain speed that you don't notice but an increase in torque that you do notice .
 
I've had it for a year and a bit , no buyers remorse at all , it's light and smooth , been trouble free .
I've run 16+ gallons of fuel through it , StihlCrazy has blocked up over 60 full cords of firewood that he sells with his .
He runs a 16" 6P spur , while I run a 14" with a 6p spur , the spur gives it a little slower chain speed that you don't notice but an increase in torque that you do notice .
At this point with my fleet burgeoning like it has I really don't need another mid size saw but boy that model calls to me. Also I'd like either that or a OE 346 so I can have a 45 cc saw to compete in the cant races once a year as well (this year my SEZ did keep up very closely to a Dolmar 420 but the 346's blew them out of the water).
 
Ha!!!!

Hard No.

I'll be putting in an order to Left Coast. I can't bring myself to run small bars on big saws.

I put a 20" on my 441 with a skip tooth chain. That was two weeks ago and haven't stopped grinning since. About like the first time I got lucky.
 
At this point with my fleet burgeoning like it has I really don't need another mid size saw but boy that model calls to me. Also I'd like either that or a OE 346 so I can have a 45 cc saw to compete in the cant races once a year as well (this year my SEZ did keep up very closely to a Dolmar 420 but the 346's blew them out of the water).
There was a thread on here a while back by Brad about the 241 vs the new edition 261. The latter showed more power with only marginally more weight (having significant weight reductions from the old edition 261), but after mods the power difference wasn't much to write home about. I found that odd, so...there is a new 241 and my new 261, both modded by Randy, being or sent to a good bloke in Oz to compare the two directly so we can see what's what in down-under wood. I'm holding out hope the 261 has more grr than the 241 and handles about the same in real-world use. We should find out soon enough. I already have had a 241 for a few years and it's been great. If the 261 turns out to be a good'n then you may want to check them out also.
Come to think of it, I never did compare the oiler output rates between the two, so it'll be more good luck than good management if the 261 is able to wear a longer bar than the 241.

*edit*but I guess the 261 would be too far over 45cc for your cant races.
*edit2* longer recommended max bar length on the 261 so I'm guessing it means higher oiler output. I've a 20" picco bar to try on it when it finally gets to NZ.
 
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