Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[tpence2177]

Get yourself chainmail boots before you go out again. [emoji13]

Most of the people I work with after they found out what happened ( everyone knows I'm accident prone) told me I should just live in a bubble.

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[chipper1]

Thanks! Not quite. My foot bruising and red right now and still slightly swollen but I've been able to walk with just a slight limp today only needed an Aleve and it wasn't really for pain, more for trying to get the swelling down further

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That's still great to hear. It could have been much worse.
I had a lot of thoughts when I saw those pictures.
I managed to scrounge a fiscars x21, I think it's the 28" one, off a guy I recently bought a 461 from.
My son wanted to use it again and I told him he could as I was going out.
Next thing I know he's coming back with a nice sized load of my premium stash of white oak he had split up, by himself , I got distracted and totally forgot I was going to go out there with him .
While I was grateful he split it up and all I was bummed at myself for not paying attention and thought's of his feet looking like yours had gone through my head.
By the way he will be 9 next month .

Edit, it was a two wheeled wheelbarrow load up even with the top, he wanted help getting it on the porch.

 

[Cowboy254]

I'm plugging away on the big blue gum. I have a bit of an issue getting all the wood out as there is a steep and bumpy ramp on the other side of a creek that the Outback doesn't find easy to get up. The crappy 2.5L petrol motor won't pull unless you're doing at least 2700rpm so you're bouncing around all over the place even going up in 1st gear low range. No way it'll tow a trailer up there. The lady farmer is going to loan me a diesel 4WD to tow the trailer up so I'll be able to retrieve my scrounge. It's going to be a fair few trips because there's all the other peppermint that I have been posting about for the last few weeks as well. I have found that the Outback will get up there with a load in the back now that things have dried out here, so I've started doing that, though before you all criticize the gaps left that could have been filled with scrounge, I was playing it safe getting up the ramp. Here's some peppermint, ready to burn.


I've been working my way back along the limbs, finding some really nice wood there, solid, dry, and bug free. No doubt, much of it being off the ground helps.



It's a pity I can't have a good crack for several hours at a time to do some real damage but I'm getting there. Hope you don't mind the progress pics, someone here once said that they like pics...

 

[nomad_archer]

After an exchange of some property with the widow in front of us, we are just shy of 3 acres.

The lady in front of us and the neighbors next to us are family and this used to be their family farm. We are living in what was their sisters house. The farm house they grew up in is attached to the 99 acres behind us. Which also has scrounge-able wood. But its swarming with PI and I'm VERY allergic.

Ewww PI. I am allergic. If I touch it I get it. The PI around me is the reason my spring turkey season is short (once all the weeds and PI start greening up, I am done). It also the reason I dont do much summer deer scouting or early season archery hunting. The two weeks after getting PI are just not worth it to me.

 

[tpence2177]

That's still great to hear. It could have been much worse.
I had a lot of thoughts when I saw those pictures.
I managed to scrounge a fiscars x21, I think it's the 28" one, off a guy I recently bought a 461 from.
My son wanted to use it again and I told him he could as I was going out.
Next thing I know he's coming back with a nice sized load of my premium stash of white oak he had split up, by himself , I got distracted and totally forgot I was going to go out there with him .
While I was grateful he split it up and all I was bummed at myself for not paying attention and thought's of his feet looking like yours had gone through my head.
By the way he will be 9 next month .

Edit, it was a two wheeled wheelbarrow load up even with the top, he wanted help getting it on the porch.

Hey, I understand. It's kinda like when I'm on a gun forum (been shooting guns and around guns my whole life so I'm much more familiar with them) and I hear about someone having a negligent discharge, even though I hate to hear it happened it does kinda remind you how dangerous it is and that you can't even drop your attention to safety from it for a second. I learned that myself this weekend with this stuff now. If I was able to kinda remind all of y'all that are way more comfortable with everything than me than I'm happy with that. Getting comfortable with anything dangerous is never a good thing.

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[nomad_archer]

Hey, I understand. It's kinda like when I'm on a gun forum (been shooting guns and around guns my whole life so I'm much more familiar with them) and I hear about someone having a negligent discharge, even though I hate to hear it happened it does kinda remind you how dangerous it is and that you can't even drop your attention to safety from it for a second. I learned that myself this weekend with this stuff now. If I was able to kinda remind all of y'all that are way more comfortable with everything than me than I'm happy with that. Getting comfortable with anything dangerous is never a good thing.

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I think whats worse is when you get lazy about safety around dangerous things. Like not wearing eye, ear protection, steel toe boots, chaps, gloves etc because you just need to make a few quick cuts.

 

[tpence2177]

I think whats worse is when you get lazy about safety around dangerous things. Like not wearing eye, ear protection, steel toe boots, chaps, gloves etc because you just need to make a few quick cuts.

Yeah I've always been kinda lazy with weedeaters, heck I've used them with flip flops and shorts before. I am slowly getting the safety stuff for chainsaws. Been wanting a limbing saw, but I may just get some chaps and the helmet/faceshield/earmuffs with that money.

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[JustJeff]

That's still great to hear. It could have been much worse.
I had a lot of thoughts when I saw those pictures.
I managed to scrounge a fiscars x21, I think it's the 28" one, off a guy I recently bought a 461 from.
My son wanted to use it again and I told him he could as I was going out.
Next thing I know he's coming back with a nice sized load of my premium stash of white oak he had split up, by himself , I got distracted and totally forgot I was going to go out there with him .
While I was grateful he split it up and all I was bummed at myself for not paying attention and thought's of his feet looking like yours had gone through my head.
By the way he will be 9 next month .

Edit, it was a two wheeled wheelbarrow load up even with the top, he wanted help getting it on the porch.

Kids don't tend to hit themselves as much because they are lower to the ground. I teach my boys to bend their knees and bring their center down with the axe stroke. That way if it glances, it will hit the ground instead of swinging back towards them. I actually do this too, adds a little oomph to the strike. Don't know if this is proper technique, but it works for us.

 

[nomad_archer]

Yeah I've always been kinda lazy with weedeaters, heck I've used them with flip flops and shorts before. I am slowly getting the safety stuff for chainsaws. Been wanting a limbing saw, but I may just get some chaps and the helmet/faceshield/earmuffs with that money.

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For chaps get full wrap. I personally like Labonville.
http://www.labonville.com/Competition-Chainsaw-Chaps-Parts-_c_81.html

 

[nomad_archer]

Kids don't tend to hit themselves as much because they are lower to the ground. I teach my boys to bend their knees and bring their center down with the axe stroke. That way if it glances, it will hit the ground instead of swinging back towards them. I actually do this too, adds a little oomph to the strike. Don't know if this is proper technique, but it works for us.

Here is proper technique. Let Mrs nomad run the splitter while I go to the saw shop.

 

[chipper1]

Yeah I've always been kinda lazy with weedeaters, heck I've used them with flip flops and shorts before. I am slowly getting the safety stuff for chainsaws. Been wanting a limbing saw, but I may just get some chaps and the helmet/faceshield/earmuffs with that money.

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Yes, the reminder is always good. It's also good for us to see odd things that happen in situations we have not been in yet, or have just not experience that "freak" thing happening so we can be made aware before it happens and possibly prevent it.
Not sure if you are talking about a top handle saw, or just a smaller lighter saw for limbing. For the most part the smaller the bar the easier to injure yourself. I want to let my son run the saw more, but I know that with a shorter bar it can be similar to a shorter barrel on a gun in the sense that is's much easier to shoot yourself with a pistol than a rifle(I'm not anti gun so please save those responses for the next guy). I would think that statistically speaking some of that would be because more users of larger saw/longer bars have more experience, and there is a larger # of saws with 16-20" bars out there, but it is a danger to be aware of.
For anyone who does not know it there is a forum specific to different injuries in the wood business/working with wood.
It would be good for you to start a thread in there as many people frequent this forum to see what to look out for. It is also the time of yr lots of newbies are coming to AS and your story could help some of them as well .
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/forums/arboricultural-injuries-and-fatalities.23/

 

[tpence2177]

Yes, the reminder is always good. It's also good for us to see odd things that happen in situations we have not been in yet, or have just not experience that "freak" thing happening so we can be made aware before it happens and possibly prevent it.
Not sure if you are talking about a top handle saw, or just a smaller lighter saw for limbing. For the most part the smaller the bar the easier to injure yourself. I want to let my son run the saw more, but I know that with a shorter bar it can be similar to a shorter barrel on a gun in the sense that is's much easier to shoot yourself with a pistol than a rifle(I'm not anti gun so please save those responses for the next guy). I would think that statistically speaking some of that would be because more users of larger saw/longer bars have more experience, and there is a larger # of saws with 16-20" bars out there, but it is a danger to be aware of.
For anyone who does not know it there is a forum specific to different injuries in the wood business/working with wood.
It would be good for you to start a thread in there as many people frequent this forum to see what to look out for. It is also the time of yr lots of newbies are coming to AS and your story could help some of them as well .
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/forums/arboricultural-injuries-and-fatalities.23/

Thanks I'll definitely check into that! I was looking at an echo Cs 310 or if for some miracle reason a used dolmar 421 popped up I was going to get it. I have a Husqvarna 51 that I'm going to downsize the bar to 16" and then my echo cs590. I also am rebuilding a mini Mac 110. That should really get me by for now, I think CAD just took over. Still will probably have some money set back for the next time I'm able to make it to Huntsville and can go to the dolly dealer, or if one pops up on Craigslist. (Home depot dealers around me don't seem to carry Makita saws in stock) I definitely need a good set of chaps and other safety things first though so that will be my next endeavor, so my next post won't be hey I cut my leg off!

 

[chipper1]

Kids don't tend to hit themselves as much because they are lower to the ground. I teach my boys to bend their knees and bring their center down with the axe stroke. That way if it glances, it will hit the ground instead of swinging back towards them. I actually do this too, adds a little oomph to the strike. Don't know if this is proper technique, but it works for us.

Yes, I personally think that is good technique depending on what you are trying to accomplish.
I agree also with the kids not hitting themselves because they are lower to the ground.
I think one of the biggest problems for the kids is working with to big of equipment. My son likes to do what Daddy does, and I'm sure your guys did too, and might still . The bummer is the equipment is not designed for kids, but adults. My son will split with my x27 which is 6" longer than the smaller one I just got. He can do a great job with it and doesn't need to choke up on it as bad as he did the x27 and that makes it a lot safer for him.
Not sure if I said it before, but I love the new 460, awesome platform to run and field/woods proven as well.

 

[chipper1]

Thanks I'll definitely check into that! I was looking at an echo Cs 310 or if for some miracle reason a used dolmar 421 popped up I was going to get it. I have a Husqvarna 51 that I'm going to downsize the bar to 16" and then my echo cs590. I also am rebuilding a mini Mac 110. That should really get me by for now, I think CAD just took over. Still will probably have some money set back for the next time I'm able to make it to Huntsville and can go to the dolly dealer, or if one pops up on Craigslist. (Home depot dealers around me don't seem to carry Makita saws in stock) I definitely need a good set of chaps and other safety things first though so that will be my next endeavor, so my next post won't be hey I cut my leg off!

Yes, I would say CAD. I don't see where a 421 would be beneficial in your arsenal other than to help fill a small slot/chink in your armor lol. I like saws, and I do have a "problem", but I still believe I can give unbiased and solid advise .
Yes, please don't cut your leg off .

 

[chipper1]

Here is proper technique. Let Mrs nomad run the splitter while I go to the saw shop.

Dang NA, you could have at least noodled some of those down for her LOL.
That is awesome that she is participating, hey who's watching the kiddos .

 

[tpence2177]

Yes, I would say CAD. I don't see where a 421 would be beneficial in your arsenal other than to help fill a small slot/chink in your armor lol. I like saws, and I do have a "problem", but I still believe I can give unbiased and solid advise [emoji38].
Yes, please don't cut your leg off .

Yeah I keep telling myself that, that's why I haven't gotten one yet. What I really want to do is build a huztl 372xp, but I have no need for a 70cc saw, just a want lol.

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[DFK]

tpence2177:
You mentioned "Getting to Huntsville???" Huntsville Alabama???

David

 

[tpence2177]

tpence2177:
You mentioned "Getting to Huntsville???" Huntsville Alabama???

David

Yessir I live in Northeast Alabama

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[tpence2177]

Here is proper technique. Let Mrs nomad run the splitter while I go to the saw shop.

I've seen a lot of people that use a splitter horizontally instead of vertically. Everytime I've used the splitter I have access to I've always used it vertically. Is there a benefit to using it the other way?

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[DFK]

tpence2177:
We live in Lawrence County. Work in Decatur.
Will "TRY" and send you a PM.

David