Semi truck loads of seasoned firewood, delivered to NE Kansas?

[Hedgerow]

YIKES...My most favorite tree & firewood; HEDGE-OSAGE ORANGE!!!!!
Do you have big market for it in your region? I'm considering trying to do a little side business featuring ash, pecan, and a lot of hedge.

Oak is the wood of choice here, but for those "In the know" Hedge is desirable... Few will pay a premium for it, but if you were a marketing genius, and sold em' on it, you might get a little more...
Pfffttt... It worked for Stihl...

 

[Hedgerow]

Those are what im coming down to cut, hard to find them that big up around here were someone will let you cut them, and yep, finally have a reason to throw a 35 inch bar on the saw,,,might need a 660 finally but i think my 360 will do it Slow for sure, but its $225-$300 a cord depending on the customer up here for hedge.

Just remember, a cord of fresh Hedge weighs ~ 5000 lbs... So haul accordingly... 2.5 cord is as big a load as I can comfortably deliver on the gooseneck trailer... A blowout on HWY 69 or 71 would suck..

 

[NEKS Tree Svc]

Just remember, a cord of fresh Hedge weighs ~ 5000 lbs... So haul accordingly... 2.5 cord is as big a load as I can comfortably deliver on the gooseneck trailer... A blowout on HWY 69 or 71 would suck..

my background is marketing after the Navy, then got into trees after that, for woodstoves i sell it like crazy but my fireplace customers that get a load every couple months wouldn't like the popping,,,but yea, Stihl did great Whats a cord of the hedge run down that way? Here is $250- $300 on average but most people wont pay more than 200, the people that go thru 1-2 load a month. I sell people on the fact the gas company is the enemy to the wallet, and wood is the way to go. Self sufficiency is the key driving factor to most of my customers. I can sell the panties off a nun. ANyone readying this, you have to know what your customer wants, and then deliver that at the best value, not price, value, and your set. Added value is that extra 10 sq ft on top of a truckload that looks like alot but really isn't much to miss. Hello repeat business.

 

[ReggieT]

my background is marketing after the Navy, then got into trees after that, for woodstoves i sell it like crazy but my fireplace customers that get a load every couple months wouldn't like the popping,,,but yea, Stihl did great Whats a cord of the hedge run down that way? Here is $250- $300 on average but most people wont pay more than 200, the people that go thru 1-2 load a month. I sell people on the fact the gas company is the enemy to the wallet, and wood is the way to go. Self sufficiency is the key driving factor to most of my customers. I can sell the panties off a nun. ANyone readying this, you have to know what your customer wants, and then deliver that at the best value, not price, value, and your set. Added value is that extra 10 sq ft on top of a truckload that looks like alot but really isn't much to miss. Hello repeat business.

Elaborate on how Stihl fared in regard to Hedge...interested...great thread!

 

[NEKS Tree Svc]

Elaborate on how Stihl fared in regard to Hedge...interested...great thread!

I have an 036 Pro, freshly rebuilt, its a 1995 model saw, all new engine and carb now. Will cut hedge w/ the 20" bar just fine. I took down a dying oak, and it only gave trouble when i cut the stump at ground level, that tree was over 4 ft wide, and that ground level heartwood was tough. Seasoned hedge takes a good sharp chain as far as i have seen, my Stihl will do good with it, but the saws besides my Mac 10 have issues with it.

 

[ReggieT]

I have an 036 Pro, freshly rebuilt, its a 1995 model saw, all new engine and carb now. Will cut hedge w/ the 20" bar just fine. I took down a dying oak, and it only gave trouble when i cut the stump at ground level, that tree was over 4 ft wide, and that ground level heartwood was tough. Seasoned hedge takes a good sharp chain as far as i have seen, my Stihl will do good with it, but the saws besides my Mac 10 have issues with it.

Ok...I understand now. I bucked a downed black locust & a hedge tree about 2 weeks ago...and although they were close in size, the hedge was substantially harder to saw than the locust and heavier. I was running my 034 w/20 inc bar with chisel chain. One piece of hedge has about 4-5 soft ball size knots running all through it...thus far it has resisted my Friskars and my heaviest & sharpest maul! Thinking about noodling it or just chucking it on the fire as the "late night log!" Nope...don't have a splitter....yet!

 

[coog]

I finally bought a splitter because I almost brained myself with my Fiskars bouncing off of a round of Hedge. Even the Monster Maul made no progress.

 

[ReggieT]

I finally bought a splitter because I almost brained myself with my Fiskars bouncing off of a round of Hedge. Even the Monster Maul made no progress.

I can relate...even slabbing off the sides has been tuff going...a real booger-bear this piece is!

 

[NEKS Tree Svc]

Hedge does not split well at all, your right even with a monster maul that stuff is tough as nails. Damn hedge, why you gotta burn so hot HAHAHAHA

 

[ReggieT]

Hedge does not split well at all, your right even with a monster maul that stuff is tough as nails. Damn hedge, why you gotta burn so hot HAHAHAHA

Hey NEKS...did Stihl run some type of promotional touting their saws ability to handle hedge or did it just get passed around via word of mouth experience?

 

[NEKS Tree Svc]

Hey NEKS...did Stihl run some type of promotional touting their saws ability to handle hedge or did it just get passed around via word of mouth experience?

I never saw anything Stihl related to hedge being passed around, just found out when i used a 32cc homelite that did better new out of box than a 46cc Ryobi new out of the box, then even before i got the stihl rebuilt after it was given to me as a tip on the job from a homeowner, it did way better than any saw i used on hedge before. Have a buddy thats just a homeowner, doesnt cut much, claim his poulan did great with hedge, till i came over and we cut a tree down and then he said he has to get a Stihl for sure, he couldn't keep up with it i even put a full chisel chain on his.

 

[NEKS Tree Svc]

I finally bought a splitter because I almost brained myself with my Fiskars bouncing off of a round of Hedge. Even the Monster Maul made no progress.

Monster Maul usually works on almost everything, were you splitting outside to inside working the rings?

 

[coog]

Monster Maul usually works on almost everything, were you splitting outside to inside working the rings?

No difference, really. I could finally bust through after dozens of strokes, but I was working up a pile that turned out to be just under 20 cords, so I needed the splitter. A side note: this was a Hedgerow that was plucked out of the ground by an excavator with a thumb. It had been so dry that there was little if any dirt on the roots, so I cut those up as well. Got DR flywheel splitter and it slams right through it.

 

[NEKS Tree Svc]

No difference, really. I could finally bust through after dozens of strokes, but I was working up a pile that turned out to be just under 20 cords, so I needed the splitter. A side note: this was a Hedgerow that was plucked out of the ground by an excavator with a thumb. It had been so dry that there was little if any dirt on the roots, so I cut those up as well. Got DR flywheel splitter and it slams right through it.

I wish i could find a used DR Flywheel splitter, or one like it for sale around here, those seem to be the way to go

 

[coog]

I wish i could find a used DR Flywheel splitter, or one like it for sale around here, those seem to be the way to go

I plan to cut up a bunch of Elm next month. We'll see how it handles that. I've been very satisfied with how it split the Hedge.

 

[zogger]

Ok...I understand now. I bucked a downed black locust & a hedge tree about 2 weeks ago...and although they were close in size, the hedge was substantially harder to saw than the locust and heavier. I was running my 034 w/20 inc bar with chisel chain. One piece of hedge has about 4-5 soft ball size knots running all through it...thus far it has resisted my Friskars and my heaviest & sharpest maul! Thinking about noodling it or just chucking it on the fire as the "late night log!" Nope...don't have a splitter....yet!

Just do it, noodle that thing into night logs. Splitting by hand you have to make a fast judgement call which tool is the best to use. If I am taking half a dozen whacks at it and getting no where, man, chainsaw makes it back to easy! And you need night logs anyway....If the wood ain't splitting at least within reason, you are doing too much damage to your hands/wrists/ whatever. Noodle it!

I use fiskars, maul, sledge and steel wedges, or noodle, in that order. And if I am using the wedges and sledge, I cut a starter kerf a coupla three inches deep, someplace to stick the wedge in good first. You can cross hatch the round pretty fast that way.

 

[Hedgerow]

my background is marketing after the Navy, then got into trees after that, for woodstoves i sell it like crazy but my fireplace customers that get a load every couple months wouldn't like the popping,,,but yea, Stihl did great Whats a cord of the hedge run down that way? Here is $250- $300 on average but most people wont pay more than 200, the people that go thru 1-2 load a month. I sell people on the fact the gas company is the enemy to the wallet, and wood is the way to go. Self sufficiency is the key driving factor to most of my customers. I can sell the panties off a nun. ANyone readying this, you have to know what your customer wants, and then deliver that at the best value, not price, value, and your set. Added value is that extra 10 sq ft on top of a truckload that looks like alot but really isn't much to miss. Hello repeat business.

Bout $150-$175 a cord here, as with anything else... Some don't want any part of it out of fear of burning their house down.
But those in the know, prefer it... I advise against anyone burning it in an open fireplace of course.. That's just asking for problems..
The same properties that give the stuff such high BTU's cause all the other difficulties in it's handling...

 

[cre10]

Bout $150-$175 a cord here, as with anything else... Some don't want any part of it out of fear of burning their house down.
But those in the know, prefer it... I advise against anyone burning it in an open fireplace of course.. That's just asking for problems..
The same properties that give the stuff such high BTU's cause all the other difficulties in it's handling...

I would never fill my stove all the way with hedge. I think it's best to mix it and superb for all night burns.

 

[NEKS Tree Svc]

I would never fill my stove all the way with hedge. I think it's best to mix it and superb for all night burns.

Toss some Elm in with it, elm burns great, but is a pain in my a** to split dang stringy stuff

 

[ReggieT]

Toss some Elm in with it, elm burns great, but is a pain in my a** to split dang stringy stuff

I like to mix my hedge with white ash, hackberry, or pecan...I do burn it in my fireplace, but only with a super fine mesh screen and with the glass doors semi-cracked...not a single problem...but, before then it was "fireworks galore!"
My friend is daring me to load it up with hedge & black locust mixed...I told him I'd pass on that unless, I had a decent OWB and that he needs to lay off the hard narcotics!!!