Short bar for Stihl 460

[Dadatwins]

Even with angle following terrain cutting anything small with 24" bar is asking for trouble. To much chain and bar in the air in my opinion. Stihl site recommends 20" bar on 460. It will mount 16" up to 32" bar but I do not think it oils enough for 32", but that's another thread. Two saws is still the answer I would give.

 

[Bigsnowdog]

Don't laugh, but my other saw is an 009, which is not much for stumps of any size, and it has a 16 inch bar, which has been great for a pruning saw for 20 years.

I can't afford to buy an 026 or 036. I am doing everything with these two saws.

 

[Bigsnowdog]

Originally posted by tawilson
I've been doing a lot of clearing lately, and cutting stumps, and using a plunge cut and pivoting the blade inside the stump seems to keep me out of the dirt a lot better.

What is the relationship between the bar length and the stump diameter? In my case I am talking about stumps that range from 6 inches to 14 inches in diameter.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by Bigsnowdog
In my case I am talking about stumps that range from 6 inches to 14 inches in diameter.

I'll knock those out with my ms200t, just for laffs.

 

[stihltech]

16 inch

I actually had a logger using an 046 with a 16 inch bar. He would not put a longer bar on.

 

[Bill G]

I doubt he is planning on grinding the stumps. I would imagine they will be mowed over.

Bill

 

[Dadatwins]

12.5 seconds for me, but now I have I have new green teeth so things seem to move faster. With Rayco teeth about 15.6?

 

[Bigsnowdog]

Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
OK, here's a dumb question. Let's say you have a 10" stump and you are holding your 046 with a 24" bar. If you were to cut it off 2" above the ground instead of running the chain in the dirt making a flush cut, how much longer would the stump grinding take? 30 seconds? 45 seconds?

I do not have a stump grinder. I have a 15 acre planting that is not commercial. Hitting stumps with a mower is a bad thing. I need to cut them short.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Re: 16 inch

Originally posted by stihltech
I actually had a logger using an 046 with a 16 inch bar. He would not put a longer bar on.

I wouldn't mind having that for showing off, like my 090G!

 

[JonnyHart]

Bigsnowdog, won't laugh. We all gotta start somewhere. Hey man, feel good, at least you didn't buy an echo.

 

[Dadatwins]

Better to sharpen 18" of echo chain than 24" stihl chain.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by Dadatwins
Better to sharpen 18" of echo chain than 24" stihl chain.

Uhhh... WHAT?

 

[JonnyHart]

Look, all I mean is that I honestly regret buying an echo. I should have spent the extra 120.$ and gotten an 020T or ms200T, or an o19T at least. I would rather spend half my career maintaing real saws then pampering echoes. My humble opinion

 

[tony marks]

i got several old 16 stihl bars here ,at least i think they still here. ifu think u could use one let me know. they come off an 028 and are 325 -.63. im not sure they would do on your saw . and like i say they are old but good for stump cutting..
i gotta say tho ,if i had a lotto them things to cut. id have to rent a stump grinder and just learn to chisel with it.

 

[jokers]

Originally posted by JonnyHart
Look, all I mean is that I honestly regret buying an echo. I should have spent the extra 120.$ and gotten an 020T or ms200T, or an o19T at least. I would rather spend half my career maintaing real saws then pampering echoes. My humble opinion

Don`t even waste your time on the 019T, what a POS! I don`t think that the new 190Ts are any better, just slightly more powerful.

Russ

 

[Dadatwins]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
Uhhh... WHAT?

It sounds to me like he is working with only 2 saws due to financial reasons. One short bar for limbing and one bar that is too long for ground work he is using it for. My suggestion to buy a cheaper 18" echo saw was to give a little more options than expensive stihl saw. And no, I am not trying to start war of the chainsaw brands I use some echo products and have been satisfied, my personal opinion is stihl is a better commercial use saw but overpriced.

 

[ccicora]

Well then guys and Gails I guess running a 16" on my 3120 is very dumb of me..... The only thing is why has it made money the last three times I ran it??

I perscribe to the short bar guys. With a 16" bar I can handle up to a 40" stump. And with the power of my 044CC has I only need to carry plenty of gas and oil.

Umm Dan I found out the fuel problem I was having..... Had to change to a bigger jet. And that Hack job artist we all know and loved DRILLED out that jet. A full tank last just over 10 min.


Later,
chris

 

[spencerhenry]

what is wrong with running a shorter bar? nothing. i run an 044 with a 20" all the time. cutting up to 30" trees. for the small stuf he is talking about, 6" to 14", similiar to the aspen i cut, a 16" bar is perfect, hell shorter would even be fine. i read that you guys are running 24, 25, 28 on a 460, why? are you cutting really big trees? i only run a bar that long on my 066 when i need to buck logs into firewood, and then only when i am cutting logs over 20" a 24" bar has more teeth to sharpen, takes more power to run, usually sticks out the other side several inches, is more weight to carry in the woods, and the chains cost alot more. use only as long a bar as necessary.

but i guess a short bar just doesnt look as cool

 

[spencerhenry]

just because a saw is larger or more powerful doesnt mean that it has to wear a longer bar. and i disagree whole-heartedly that an 260 will cut a 6" stem as fast or faster than a 460. i guarantee that i can cut more stems in a day with my 044 with a 20" bar than my 026pro with any bar. i have tried it. i have run my 044 with a 20" bar up against my 036 with a 16"bar and my 026 with a 16" bar. there is absolutely no comparison.

if cutting a 8" dia stem, the amount of wood removed is the same, wether the powerhead is big or small. but everyone knows that more power moves more chips. i have several saws, and from experience i know that i can get more trees on the ground regarless of size, with a bigger saw. now i am not going to take my 066 out to fell 10" trees with a 20" bar but it too would be faster than an 026, or 036. the difference here is that the extra weight will slow down my production. the lighter weight of an 026 doesnt help my production enough to compensate for its lack of chain pulling ability. maybe at sea level those little saws have ok power but here at 8000 to 11000' the 026 is only good for cutting brush.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
no need to go off on a rant about F800's or Home Depot or plywood.

Plywood? PLYWOOD???

I... I... ARGGGGGGHHHHHHhhhhhh!!!