Husky372
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both guys that teach the game of logging/safe felling here in NH are also in the woods all day cutting timber and they both run 16" bars one has husky 372xp the other has a ms460.
Short bar for Stihl 460
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If you have more use for that 16" and that is what you want.......do it! If this is a one shot deal, save your money towards chain for your 24"
Pacific
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One word Swede Saw 
its cheap to buy if you need exercise thats the tool.
I don't know how large of stumps you are cutting if your worried about dirt get a recip saw with a long blade on it you can cut the stumps as flush as you want.
Running a short bar on a 046 is kinda foolish myself I wouldn't run anything shorter than a 28" on a 46 a MS 260 with a 20" bar is perfect for the small stuff.
The other way of removing stumps is pull them out you never have to worry about them again if you leave a tall top on them a machine can pull them out.
its cheap to buy if you need exercise thats the tool.I don't know how large of stumps you are cutting if your worried about dirt get a recip saw with a long blade on it you can cut the stumps as flush as you want.
Running a short bar on a 046 is kinda foolish myself I wouldn't run anything shorter than a 28" on a 46 a MS 260 with a 20" bar is perfect for the small stuff.
The other way of removing stumps is pull them out you never have to worry about them again if you leave a tall top on them a machine can pull them out.
Lumberjack
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4 pages to answer one simple question.
Drive to the chain saw dealer, open the door. Ask the friendly person behind the counter to get you a 16" bar for an 046. Exchange cash for said bar. Return to vehicle, and drive to worksite. Gas and oil the saw, slap on the bar (and the chain, you didnt forget it did you?) and go stick it in some wood.
It is a minimal investment, if you like it then keep it, if not, post it on used equipment, and get most of your money back.
On my 044 my smallest bar is 20" which I run with a 8 tooth
sp-rocket.
Drive to the chain saw dealer, open the door. Ask the friendly person behind the counter to get you a 16" bar for an 046. Exchange cash for said bar. Return to vehicle, and drive to worksite. Gas and oil the saw, slap on the bar (and the chain, you didnt forget it did you?) and go stick it in some wood.
It is a minimal investment, if you like it then keep it, if not, post it on used equipment, and get most of your money back.
On my 044 my smallest bar is 20" which I run with a 8 tooth
sp-rocket.
JonnyHart
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Don't you see that we love to debate simple questions?
jokers
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Lumberjack has the answer. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
I run short bars on saws that size all the time, it`s a myth that the short bar will cause the saw to be destroyed.
Russ
I run short bars on saws that size all the time, it`s a myth that the short bar will cause the saw to be destroyed.
Russ
Marky Mark
Hell's Kitchen Trapper
Lets face it I don't know anyone but Steve and EHP that keep saws in there bedrooms. If steve has a 14 incher on this baby it will work just fine. Me I have a 14" on my KD 385 hasn't hurt it yet.
Marky Mark
Hell's Kitchen Trapper
Here's a link to a few french fryers. I just can't find the KD 088 that john has with the 13" bar.
redpowerd
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really dig that bar!
tony marks
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an 036 with 16 inch bar is gonna be about one strong combo.. while an 044 mite hold a little higher rpm in cut .i doubt it could be much higher.
in cured hardwood the motor on the 036 almost sounds like its without load..
but ill just see.. u have given me an idea..
wheres my pp 372.got some 20inch stuff out there.. im gonna see what happens when i put the 16 ful chisel on it.ill keep the 20 on the 036 as it handles that well also.. . who knows by tommorow,, i mite have a different front cab saw., im gettin excited. imo have the sure nuff baddest 16 inch chainsaw around.
any body got an exstra,, say 55 rancher decals. if it fits rite this could be fun man.:angel:
in cured hardwood the motor on the 036 almost sounds like its without load..
but ill just see.. u have given me an idea..
wheres my pp 372.got some 20inch stuff out there.. im gonna see what happens when i put the 16 ful chisel on it.ill keep the 20 on the 036 as it handles that well also.. . who knows by tommorow,, i mite have a different front cab saw., im gettin excited. imo have the sure nuff baddest 16 inch chainsaw around.
any body got an exstra,, say 55 rancher decals. if it fits rite this could be fun man.:angel:
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
The truth of the matter is, is that it takes more skill to dump a tree with a shorter bar than it does with a long gangley bar.
Unnecessarily long bars are for those that don't know how to make the cuts meet in felling notches and for Backache Barneys who can't bend over to get at the work.
A bar that is 2/3 the size of the work is more than adequate, unless working steep ground with big wood for the extra reach a longer bar will afford.
John
Unnecessarily long bars are for those that don't know how to make the cuts meet in felling notches and for Backache Barneys who can't bend over to get at the work.
A bar that is 2/3 the size of the work is more than adequate, unless working steep ground with big wood for the extra reach a longer bar will afford.
John
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spencerhenry
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gypo, how big of trees do you intend to cut with your saw in the picture. lets see if 2/3 of the dia= bar length you must be cutting 9' diameter trees. ( i believe you said that was a 72" bar) i would like to find a tree like that. dont know what i would do with it though. but sure would be fun to knock it down.
jokers
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They`re also for guys who are trying to make up for other "short" comings.
Russ
johncinco
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Just buy the 2nd bar...
You'll need it when you get the first pinched in the tree and have to unbolt the bar, put the other one on, and finsh getting teh tree down so you can get your bar back out.
Ummm, no never had to do that, just something I read once, yeah thats it, sure..
You'll need it when you get the first pinched in the tree and have to unbolt the bar, put the other one on, and finsh getting teh tree down so you can get your bar back out.
Ummm, no never had to do that, just something I read once, yeah thats it, sure..
Pacific
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In this area 32" is about the biggest you see on a 066 as there isn't much big wood to fall nowwadays but a 28" is the smallest bar you will see on a 046 or 066 fallers saw.
The fallers I know tell me they don't like poking at big wood with a saw with a short bar and I don't blame them even my 28" bar was a bit short cutting the notches and back cut on the large cedars I was falling. When you can only stand safely on one side of the tree you need a long bar to make the cuts its kinda biatch when you got the saw over your head making the cuts.
The fallers I know tell me they don't like poking at big wood with a saw with a short bar and I don't blame them even my 28" bar was a bit short cutting the notches and back cut on the large cedars I was falling. When you can only stand safely on one side of the tree you need a long bar to make the cuts its kinda biatch when you got the saw over your head making the cuts.
Oregon_Rob
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I just picked my 372 up after having the carb work done and as the mechanic was doing the final tweaking (of the carb) by plunging it into the test log out back, he commented how odd he thought it was that I had a 20” bar on a 5 cube saw. He did say it with a grin on his face though. I think he liked it. All the fallers out here run 32’s. I told him that’s nothing, my ported 385 will show up with a 20 too!
I have run an 18 inch bar on my 44 quite a bit, its even seen time on my 66 when my 44 was in the shop and the ms200 just didnt have the power for a few climbing jobs.
Boy they sure cut fast with the smaller bar, they are easier to handle and take no time to sharpen. I have yet to hit dirt using one either although hitting dirt is rare for me.
Yeah do it, its not always an option to have another saw, I worked with just an ms200 and a 66 for ages, you can get away with it!
019t's make polans look good.
Boy they sure cut fast with the smaller bar, they are easier to handle and take no time to sharpen. I have yet to hit dirt using one either although hitting dirt is rare for me.
Yeah do it, its not always an option to have another saw, I worked with just an ms200 and a 66 for ages, you can get away with it!
019t's make polans look good.
ehp
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I think you have to figure in what kind of wood you are cutting, up here very few guys use a 24 inch bar most are using 20 inch or 18 inch on 460's 660's 372's and 385's , i can see cutting soft wood like pine and stuff with a longer bar but when your most common tree is rock maple you tread to use a shorter bar plus i think you are alot more ready to cut high grade green gold with a shorter bar when it is time for it to leave the stump, so if you still have the dawgs on the 460 get your 16 inch or a 18 inch you will like it and find cutting stumps off alot easier than a long bar
JonnyHart
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A 16" or 18" on a 660?! I respect anybody's opinion, so here's mine. In western NY, nobody needs a saw bigger than a 660/066, and it usually something like a 32", giveor take. What the hell are you cutting? Rock Maple is common in my area, and the 066 with a 32" goes right thru it, and if yer lucky, you won't have to walk around the stump on yer knees when ya flush cut it. I'm sure a 16" bar on a 660 will go at a piece of wood like a beaver on amphetamines, but it's not practical. If ya got some big saws and the 660 is one of yer smaller saws by all means go for it.
