Should I start a business????

[tree md]

And FWIW I carried a 3.78 through college... Tested out with a 146 on my IQ test... Imagine that.

 

[jefflovstrom]

I'd like to invite all you P'sOS over to my house for a no holds barred! I have never talked with such a bunch of horses rear ends and frankly the only one giving the trade a black eye are guys like you! I have talked with a few business in the area and they are very nice but I guess I must live in a better part of the country than you and they are not miserable pricks. If I were in your area I would take trees down for free, maybe start a tree cutting charity service. Just remember...MEAN PEOPLE SUCK...... ya, I'm talking to YOU rooster fish!

Ha! What a Goob!
Jeff

 

[treeslayer]

I'm done with this thread for good, quit replying, is going nowhere

GOOD. You started this idiotic thread, so good riddance.

or you're a troll. either way, beat it.

:notrolls2:

 

[pdqdl]

ole swyman really wasn't so bad, he just didn't understand. He posted a legitimate question; he just wasn't ready for the reality of everybody's answers.

I suspect that he wasn't seeking opinions so much as he was looking for confirmation of his plan.

 

[treeslayer]

ole swyman really wasn't so bad, he just didn't understand. He posted a legitimate question; he just wasn't ready for the reality of everybody's answers.

I suspect that he wasn't seeking opinions so much as he was looking for confirmation of his plan.

True that, yo.

 

[swyman]

I apologize for getting po'ed and talking crap. I still don't know what I'm going to do and you guys have done nothing but push me closer to pulling the trigger just to prove I can do it, just hard to part with the money for equipment and go into the unknown (as far as work availability). This is a great country we live in and everyone is entitled for their opinion even if it is not what I wanted to hear! Maybe I won't make it but I if you don't try, you'll never know and always think what if. For me, I just want to do something I like and be able to make a living at it. I have a couple young boy's and I hope to give them options. Hell by the time they graduate you'll probably need an associates degree to flip burgers. So with that, I am still open to all info, good or bad and will read and learn instead of being an a-hole. Still offering for anyone to come over but how about just sitting in the shop and pounding some beers and talking trees?

 

[treeclimber101]

I apologize for getting po'ed and talking crap. I still don't know what I'm going to do and you guys have done nothing but push me closer to pulling the trigger just to prove I can do it, just hard to part with the money for equipment and go into the unknown (as far as work availability). This is a great country we live in and everyone is entitled for their opinion even if it is not what I wanted to hear! Maybe I won't make it but I if you don't try, you'll never know and always think what if. For me, I just want to do something I like and be able to make a living at it. I have a couple young boy's and I hope to give them options. Hell by the time they graduate you'll probably need an associates degree to flip burgers. So with that, I am still open to all info, good or bad and will read and learn instead of being an a-hole. Still offering for anyone to come over but how about just sitting in the shop and pounding some beers and talking trees?

FINE ... now your talking I will come and drink your beer and smoke your weed .. Wait did you offer weed ????

 

[Blakesmaster]

Honestly swyman, I think you should go with what you know. You already have a fab shop startup going, why not sink your time and resources into that instead of venturing into an arena where you have absolutely no experience? Seems that would be the smarter choice, no? I still think you could take some of the others advice from this thread about offering your equipment and services to tree company's. This would benefit you in a lot of ways. One, you'd see what pros really get into and, if you're smart, would realize how over your head starting a tree service would be with your level of expertise. Two, you'd probably easily be able to work out a deal to keep a lot of the wood the tree services want to get rid of. ####, just today I gave to huge loads of primo oak away. And most importantly...NETWORKING! Tree services always need good welders and fab men. You can sell those services to them too.

 

[jefflovstrom]

I apologize for getting po'ed and talking crap. I still don't know what I'm going to do and you guys have done nothing but push me closer to pulling the trigger just to prove I can do it, just hard to part with the money for equipment and go into the unknown (as far as work availability). This is a great country we live in and everyone is entitled for their opinion even if it is not what I wanted to hear! Maybe I won't make it but I if you don't try, you'll never know and always think what if. For me, I just want to do something I like and be able to make a living at it. I have a couple young boy's and I hope to give them options. Hell by the time they graduate you'll probably need an associates degree to flip burgers. So with that, I am still open to all info, good or bad and will read and learn instead of being an a-hole. Still offering for anyone to come over but how about just sitting in the shop and pounding some beers and talking trees?

Welcome back.
Jeff

 

[jefflovstrom]

Honestly swyman, I think you should go with what you know. You already have a fab shop startup going, why not sink your time and resources into that instead of venturing into an arena where you have absolutely no experience? Seems that would be the smarter choice, no? I still think you could take some of the others advice from this thread about offering your equipment and services to tree company's. This would benefit you in a lot of ways. One, you'd see what pros really get into and, if you're smart, would realize how over your head starting a tree service would be with your level of expertise. Two, you'd probably easily be able to work out a deal to keep a lot of the wood the tree services want to get rid of. ####, just today I gave to huge loads of primo oak away. And most importantly...NETWORKING! Tree services always need good welders and fab men. You can sell those services to them too.

And a guy with a fab shop. Blakes is right.
Jeff

 

[treeclimber101]

I think its great that your starting a new business venture , just do me a solid and stay away from 08029.. That is my stomping ground ...

 

[jefflovstrom]

I think its great that your starting a new business venture , just do me a solid and stay away from 08029.. That is my stomping ground ...

Now he knows, oh oh!
Jeff
Dang it is getting cool out. I should turn off my air conditioner!

 

[swyman]

FINE ... now your talking I will come and drink your beer and smoke your weed .. Wait did you offer weed ????

Weed days are long gone, I just got a temp job with MDOT and they have random tests but I still have some good memories!

 

[jefflovstrom]

Weed days are long gone, I just got a temp job with MDOT and they have random tests but I still have some good memories!

" Flash-Back's" are free!
Jeff
I think the warm weather is getting to me.

 

[swyman]

Honestly swyman, I think you should go with what you know. You already have a fab shop startup going, why not sink your time and resources into that instead of venturing into an arena where you have absolutely no experience? Seems that would be the smarter choice, no? I still think you could take some of the others advice from this thread about offering your equipment and services to tree company's. This would benefit you in a lot of ways. One, you'd see what pros really get into and, if you're smart, would realize how over your head starting a tree service would be with your level of expertise. Two, you'd probably easily be able to work out a deal to keep a lot of the wood the tree services want to get rid of. ####, just today I gave to huge loads of primo oak away. And most importantly...NETWORKING! Tree services always need good welders and fab men. You can sell those services to them too.

There are a couple tree services in the area that I wanted to go talk to that I haven't yet and one of them was buring all the big rounds that I would love to have. They are a fairly new company and it should be easier for me to pick those big rounds up than him handling them a couple times (although he has a prentice loader). I really want to stay busy and I think I will have to much idle time in the shop but I gues I will see what advertising will do? My friend has 25 years experience in owning and running a tree service and calls me everyday. He would be there every step of the way to guide me and give direction. He was very successful, atleast it supported his cocain and heroin addiction and many many strippers, said he'd go everyday. Finally got the best of him and was put in a nut house for a few years, he was messed up pretty bad. Now back living at home on permanant disability and back in circulation but can't really offer any physical help but all the advice of a true veteran. He drives around and looks for trees that need attention then tells me. Just can't take the arborist out of him! I guess I should be patient on my shop and see what the future brings.

 

[tree md]

You sound like a pretty good dude swyman. You are catching the brunt of what a lot of career treemen would like to tell all the jacklegs (sorry don't know any other way to put it) who enter the industry everyday. Some make it, most don't. It is a little insulting to think you can just jump into the biz with a chainsaw and a little equipment and call yourself an arborist with no apprenticeship or paying your dues like most accomplished treemen have...

 

[jefflovstrom]

You sound like a pretty good dude swyman. You are catching the brunt of what a lot of career treemen would like to tell all the jacklegs (sorry don't know any other way to put it) who enter the industry everyday. Some make it, most don't. It is a little insulting to think you can just jump into the biz with a chainsaw and a little equipment and call yourself an arborist with no apprenticeship or paying your dues like most accomplished treemen have...

I agree, You bring your 'man-suit' and hang.
I bet Slayer is saying "WTF".
Jeff

 

[pdqdl]

I would like to think that with just a few thoughtful words, I may have turned this thread around. Perhaps some of you other guys could learn to see an opportunity for gaining another contributing member when a newbie comes around, instead of just another newbie looking to become the competition.

swyman: Please remember that this is a pretty crusty forum, but most of the comments that I read seemed to be good advice beneath their somewhat abusive tone. The guys who were attempting to chase you away from your tree trimming plans were probably looking out for your best interests in the long run. When you get around to asking specific "how to" questions, the best forum to get a polite answer is in "arborist 101"

 

[jefflovstrom]

I would like to think that with just a few thoughtful words, I may have turned this thread around. Perhaps some of you other guys could learn to see an opportunity for gaining another contributing member when a newbie comes around, instead of just another newbie looking to become the competition.

swyman: Please remember that this is a pretty crusty forum, but most of the comments that I read seemed to be good advice beneath their somewhat abusive tone. The guys who were attempting to chase you away from your tree trimming plans were probably looking out for your best interests in the long run. When you get around to asking specific "how to" questions, the best forum to get a polite answer is in "arborist 101"

Yup, I may be a little abusive, but I am really a sweet guy!!!
Jeff

 

[treeslayer]

I would like to think that with just a few thoughtful words, I may have turned this thread around. Perhaps some of you other guys could learn to see an opportunity for gaining another contributing member when a newbie comes around, instead of just another newbie looking to become the competition.

swyman: Please remember that this is a pretty crusty forum, but most of the comments that I read seemed to be good advice beneath their somewhat abusive tone. The guys who were attempting to chase you away from your tree trimming plans were probably looking out for your best interests in the long run. When you get around to asking specific "how to" questions, the best forum to get a polite answer is in "arborist 101"

at least he's got a trade under his belt, those snot nosed kids are the worst.
And I appreciate his candor, and honest answer.

he passed that test.

Get some trees, I'll climb for you. and run my mouth all day, :chatter:
if you could remember 25% of what I dissimenate you would learn something.

I've spent a lot of time drinking beer in fab shops, my guy here builds airplanes in his.