silky sugoi; not that incredible?

[imagineero]

I received my firsy silky saw a few days ago and I have to say I was decidedly underwhelmed by it. Maybe the high price we pay in aus for such things had a bit to do with it (about $140 delivered) but I think it was more that I was just expecting too much.

Every time I read a thread about silky saws (i've even started one myself) I feel overwhelmed by all the guys that have them hi fiving each other and shooting big sticky wads everywhere about how great these saws are. Naturally, I had to have one. Previously I'd been using cheap japanese pull saws that cost me about $15 from my hardware store. I've got to say, the sugoi isn't really that much faster. maybe 15~20%. and having only 6.5tpi it doesnt give as fine a cut either....

The scabbard is moderately cool I'll grant. But it felt a bit cheap to me as did the whole saw. It definitely wont give a chainsaw a run for its money as some people claim.... unless your taking substances that I;m not :rockn:

I'd take a serious pair of loppers over these any day.

Shaun

 

[derwoodii]

Yeah I read how these hand tools are so fast n furious. I kinda think these blokes ain't had to cut gum or other mean Oz hard woods. Sure in maple willow or other northern timbers these things may just slice on though but anything over arm size in Gum down here and even your newest koolest hand saw bogs down. Or just perhaps you n I are just soft,, hmm but ar don't think so.
Can you resharpen these silky things or are they hard set like my Wolf tool saw which at new are tip top but last only awhile.

 

[imagineero]

you can sharpen the sugoi, but not the zubat. Good luck trying to find someone to do a proper job of it though.... replacement blades are about $80 from memory?

If it lasts a long time I'll be happy enough. It is a good saw, just not really life altering.

While searching for info on loppers I came across this page;

http://www.forestrytools.com.au/index.php?id=23

which looks pretty well stocked but not a lot of info. They have a big range of saws made by someone called 'barnell' which talk the silky talk at least (tri edge, impulse hardened, pull cut etc etc) . The handles and scabbards look a bit basic, but at $60 it's hard to go wrong. Can't help but feel that hand saws have kind of gone the way of razor blades. The mach 4 sensor 5 blade super cut technology doesnt give me the feeling of flying a jet plane, it just shaves my face like any other razor would ;-)

Shaun

 

[imagineero]

damn.
just had a search for barnell saws and discovered.... they're under $30 in US :bang:

 

[oldirty]

i don't think any handsaw will make you shoot big sticky wads everywhere but that said i bought the ibuki when my sugoi misplaced itself.

the sugoi and the ibuki are both big handsaws so obviously mored geared to take takedowns or big time prunes not so much the fine stuff.

i don't wear one anymore..... handsaws that is.

 

[RacerX]

IMO a 15-20% increase in production over the life of the saw is HUGE. Not to mention the overall lower wear and tear on your elbow and the rest of your arm.

 

[Koa Man]

I recently purchased a Kanzawa 15 inch Ichiban handsaw for $64US, and found that to be far superior to the Silky Ibuki I had bought earlier for $83.

I switched to Kanzawa handsaws about 4 years ago and have found the blades last longer and cut just as fast as the Silky. The Kanzawa saws are considerably cheaper. I gave away my Zubat last year.

 

[Damon]

i have a sugoi the 460 i think it is with the vine hook and i will say that while i dont shoot wads over it it is far and again the best handsaw ive ever owned. we can buy these here for like 75 bucks and there worth every penny, i use mine alot for hooking vines and getting me out of jams when i do something stupid with my 200t

tom