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smoking climbers

  • cigaretts

    Votes: 24 22.6%
  • dip/snuff/chew

    Votes: 9 8.5%
  • smoke and dip/chew

    Votes: 8 7.5%
  • none

    Votes: 65 61.3%

  • Total voters
    106
you need to add the 'all of the above' choice to your poll
smoke on the ground, dip in the tree.
-Ralph

edit: nevermind, I edited it for you
 
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begleytree said:
you need to add the 'all of the above' choice to your poll
smoke on the ground, dip in the tree.
-Ralph
thanx mr begleytree. was mr H.Sapiens Moderatus born in ohio? woowee i need a drink. ill try 2 add booze and all the above:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
 
(WLL) said:
thanx mr begleytree. was mr H.Sapiens Moderatus born in ohio? woowee i need a drink. ill try 2 add booze and all the above:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

as a matter of fact,yes I was.....right on the KY border too!
-Ralph
 
lots of viewers no voters only in america

:popcorn:
 
I smoke like a freight train.but usually when im havin beers after work.Maybe 1-4 while im workin a 10 hr day.Hell im smokin now.:deadhorse:
 
hay -Ralf u need a job... buddy.. man i need another round:dizzy:
 
I don't smoke, take drugs or drink. I see climbing just like athletics, the stronger/fitter you are the more you can do and the faster, with the added fact of a clear mind whilst' in the tree. My mother used to smoke and my sisters do still smoke and it's just not worth the money you waste on em'.

Myself personally would not hire a smoking climber or even groundy for that fact. It's just a preference that I like to have moderately fit/healthy people working with me for better production.
 
If you smoke, or use any other tobacco product, you're stupid. It's just that simple, sorry. I work with a tobacco addict. I regularly chide him when he lights up, but he still smokes when I'm up in the trees. Even there, I can smell that crap! Watching my old man die of lung cancer was no fun, to put it mildly. It's a POS death. I used to tell him when I was a little kid, "Dad, that will kill you one of these days!" to which he'd reply, "We all gotta go some way!" Yeah, real smart. He quit after forty-seven years of three packs a day, but he still got hit, twenty-two years later, first with emphysema, then cancer. He died at 85, and if he hadn't smoked, he would still be going strong right into the triple digits, no doubt about it. He was clear as a bell, mentally, right up to the day he died.
 
smoke the odd cigar...but a lot of the best climbers for the outfit i work with smoke and not just nicotine either, and they can pound up big hammers all day... in fact i noticed one advantage some of these guys have is that they don't have to stop for lunch!.... i judge people by their climbing not their habits... so many things are bad for you whether its smoking, eating cheeseburgers, driving in traffic, having casual sex, shopping at wal-mart...etc
 
hmm, 85 is what? 12-15 years past life expectancy? sounds like he did fine.
imo, its genetics. some people can smoke until they turn 100, and others die at 55 from it. I worked for a woman today who is 86 and smokes 4 packs a day. I doubt she can outrun you to the mailbox, but she will be right with you.

wonder what the punishment on a/s is for calling a mod stupid.......
-Ralph
 
I smoke but wish I didnt. I can stilll get up a tree, although I felt the difference when I quit for a month last summer. Felt better, although I was drawn back into the evil world of nicotine...

How come you didnt put an option for non smokers.
 
JohN Dee said:
I don't smoke, take drugs or drink. I see climbing just like athletics, the stronger/fitter you are the more you can do and the faster, with the added fact of a clear mind whilst' in the tree. My mother used to smoke and my sisters do still smoke and it's just not worth the money you waste on em'.

Myself personally would not hire a smoking climber or even groundy for that fact. It's just a preference that I like to have moderately fit/healthy people working with me for better production.


You might want to consider adjusting that attitude a bit to reflect reality. There are many who choose to smoke and who are very fit, able, and talented tree workers. On the whole, I agree with you, smokeless people are on average fitter than those who choose to smoke.

But that's the problem with statistics and averages -- they tell NOTHING about the individual.

I happen to know quite a few tree workers who DON'T smoke, and who can't even come close to performing the amount or quality of work as many I know that do happen to smoke.

It's never wise to judge people on a single criterion. Take people as a whole, and judge them that way in order to determine whether they qualify as a potential employeee, or not.
 
Chucky has a good point. I know men who eat nothing but fast food 3x a day and work out on the video games every waking moment of their lives when not at work. these guys don't smoke and couldn't walk to the mailbox and back! heck, my old boss wouldn't smoke a cig if you held a gun to his head, sure didn't stop him from snorting coke though.

blanket statements, like everyone who smokes is stupid and I won't be around them, are BS. no doubt many nonsmokers fail to exercise, eat junk, drive too fast, have unprotected sex, fail to use turn signals, and lift with their backs. clear mind, lol, ever drive and talk on the cell phone?
-Ralph
 
On the average, the guy that smokes is trying to figure when his next fix is coming....I couldn't hack that distraction while I was up in a tree.

Fitness level seems to be more what a guy feeds himself. Lot of smokers eating less crap in a 12 hour day than us non smokers.
 
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