smoking climbers?

[Grizzly]

I know that it isn't a good sign if you ground man comes to work smokeing his life away let alone a hang over from the night before.
What kind of actions have you guys done to prevent this from happening?

 

[Jumper]

Simple, do not hire smokers and if that is impossible, forbid smoking while on the job, anywhere! On top of the time you lose with them having to light up, it is statistically proven they miss more days of work due to illness. And if you are dealing with customers directly smoking is widely perceived to be an activity associated with lower class/uneducated people, and by extension your business is going to get the same rep.

I know if I was hiring someone, and two candidates were equally in the running, the non smoker would get the nod. Ditto for people with substance abuse problems including alcohol. Showing up all hungover or still loaded is a severe sign of disrepsect to me, my business and my customers.

 

[JayD]

I've seen blokes that can go hard all day long and there smokers now i'm not saying I'm for climbers smoking,but as an Ex smoker I'm not sitting on the fence..it is definitely a drug of addiction,it took me about 5 or 6 attempts to give up and to this day when a new pouch of tabacco is opened around me I still feel like taking a great big bite out of it,yes I think if you rule out smokers you mite miss out on a good worker as long as they lite up away from you and when their part of the job has a break in it,but it does come down to personal preference,theory is if they don't smoke their more productive because they don't stop for a cigy break,but hey its your body your lungs and if you want to smoke go rite ahead...please blow your smoke away from me...me a choice between a non smoker and a smoker..well I'll have to go with the non smoker

 

[bulletbob]

smog

johNdee is 100% correct

 

[Ekka]

Here's the new packet graphics in Australia, make you drool to the tasty contents and the macho image.

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/w...lth-strateg-drugs-tobacco-warning-packs-A.htm

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/w...lth-strateg-drugs-tobacco-warning-packs-B.htm

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/w...trateg-drugs-tobacco-warning-packs-cigars.htm

 

[JohN Dee]

Yeah those things are grose but effective. Have you seen the ad's? That one where she has a rotted out mouth was sickening :fart: .. It came on for the first time when I was eating dinner.

 

[Marco]

Anybody ever see that flop "Waterworld"? Smokers really started to get it about that time. To bad the bad guys didn't have a thing for designer shoes.

 

[Chucky]

Here's the new packet graphics in Australia, make you drool to the tasty contents and the macho image.

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/w...lth-strateg-drugs-tobacco-warning-packs-A.htm

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/w...lth-strateg-drugs-tobacco-warning-packs-B.htm

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/w...trateg-drugs-tobacco-warning-packs-cigars.htm

But Erik, teenagers with just a modicum of intelligence, common sense, and an aptitude for critical thinking, are just going to laughingly dismiss such a glaringly feeble anti-smoking campaign such as the above as totally lame, and blatantly over the top.

Do you really think our youth has such gullible, impressionistic minds as to accept that codswallup? I can picture them right now puffing away on cigarettes cackling at the morons who produced that bit of tripe. Ha!

 

[Chucky]

I've seen blokes that can go hard all day long and there smokers now i'm not saying I'm for climbers smoking,but as an Ex smoker I'm not sitting on the fence..it is definitely a drug of addiction,it took me about 5 or 6 attempts to give up and to this day when a new pouch of tabacco is opened around me I still feel like taking a great big bite out of it,yes I think if you rule out smokers you mite miss out on a good worker as long as they lite up away from you and when their part of the job has a break in it,but it does come down to personal preference,theory is if they don't smoke their more productive because they don't stop for a cigy break,but hey its your body your lungs and if you want to smoke go rite ahead...please blow your smoke away from me...me a choice between a non smoker and a smoker..well I'll have to go with the non smoker

Now there's common sense.

 

[Ekka]

The young ones, hard to do much about.

They smoke coz ...

act tough

grown up

rebellious

anti-authoritarian

be cool

experiment

"be with the in crowd"

Sometimes they'll do the opposite just to rebel, it's the toughest challenge ever to stop them taking it up.

Our kids ask a lot of questions about it and find it hard to believe that smokers actually know the damage it is doing yet dont give it up ... so they know what the word addiction means now. Hopefully when they're teenagers they'll have the sense to leave it alone.

 

[JayD]

The young ones, hard to do much about.
Our kids ask a lot of questions about it and find it hard to believe that smokers actually know the damage it is doing yet dont give it up ... so they know what the word addiction means now. Hopefully when they're teenagers they'll have the sense to leave it alone.

What it is Ekka,is it wont happen to me syndrome.
I hope your youngins leave it be

 

[JohN Dee]

What it is Ekka,is it wont happen to me syndrome.
I hope your youngins leave it be

Lol, thanks Dad. I was always a "It won't happen to me kid" and it still and won't happen.

 

[Grizzly]

I wasn't intending to get in a pissing contst with you but thats besides the point. Even though at the age of 19, I can resonably say that I've done some stupid things that were both short and long term that will greatly effect me in almost all aspects. Yet with the smoking now; I don't smoke like a furnise as you may see some other people doing, but it's more along the line of a social thing. I haven't bought a pack of smokes since last june. It dosen't meen that a nail a cancer stick everyday, but when I go to a party and my girl friends smoking, I'll take a hit or two and thats about it.

 

[Timberhauler]

I don't smoke,but I do dip and sparringly at that.I am trying to give it up,but it seems to have me by the balls.I have four employees,two of which smoke,and I don't allow smoking in my trucks or on my jobsites just because their butts usually end up all over my customer's lawns and driveways.It didn't bother me in the past until I had to re-visit a customer once who was highly pissed because there was cigarette butts all over his yard.We went back and picked up fifteen of them,and that was just from a little over half a days work.Most people wouldn't have even paid any attention to it,but this guy did and he had gotten me alot of work in this particular subdivision,so I ended up banning smoking on the job sites,and I don't dip unless I'm at home anymore.

 

[asiegler04]

I am a climber and I dont smoke or chew I drink but never on the job. I think you need to be in great shape to be a climber but that is just me.

 

[hornett22]

i have been known to smoke in a tree..........

while waiting for the non smokers on the ground to catch up.we need to get over this PC crap.if you don't like it fine,stay away from it.judging a person as a whole for one thing they do that you don't like isn't fair.the only reason i still smokeis to offend whiny,nosey,busybody liberals.

 

[Jumper]

No judging a person for one thing is not fair but that is the way things work in North American society. Aside from the health concerns, smoking is perceived by mainstream society to be an activity associated with lower class and unintelligent people. So if you want to be associated, rightly or wrongly with that particular group that is your choice.

"the only reason i still smokeis to offend whiny,nosey,busybody liberals." Now that is a really good reason to keep smoking IMHO.

"if you don't like it fine,stay away from it" Which is becoming more and more easy to do given smoking is widely prohibited in most public places. Soon the only place you are going to be able to do so is in the street, in/on your own property and in your own car.

 

[OTG BOSTON]

H-i-l-a-r-i-o-u-s!!!!

while waiting for the non smokers on the ground to catch up.we need to get over this PC crap.if you don't like it fine,stay away from it.judging a person as a whole for one thing they do that you don't like isn't fair.the only reason i still smokeis to offend whiny,nosey,busybody liberals.

That seems like a lot of trouble to go through just to offend people. Why not tattoo FTW on your forehead, or fart every time you wallk into a room??

 

[Tree Slayer]

All I can say is there was nothing better when I was young than taking the top out of a big tree and siting right on top of the spar having a smoke. now I haven't smoked for 10 years and wish I never did. Most people that I no that smoke wish they could quit.

 

[hornett22]

sorry,i'm a one pack a day guy.

i wish i never started but i did.so be it.i am courteous about smoking around others and i try and stand away from non smokers.i usually don't even smoke in my own car if a non smoker is riding with me.some people i know who don't smoke don't even care.they judge me for my work.

i live in the communist NE so i can't smoke most public places indoors.i do feel like there should be a choice though.if non smoking establishments like bars and eateries are so popular,why were there hardly any before the law was passed.there should be places for smokers and non smokers alike.

funny how our casinos are convieniently exempt from these laws.