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Gologit

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I just got home from a little three day vacation at our local hospital. Monday morning I had a small red itchy spot on the back of my right hand. Monday evening I had a hand about the size of a catchers mitt...but much more colorful. I went to the local Urgent Care clinic...you know, the one where all the doctors speak with accents and have medical degrees from colleges in Botswana or the small islands of the Caribbean.

Docs In A Box took one look and had me admitted to the real hospital. The one with real doctors. Lots of blood drawn, lots of big IV antibiotic bags hanging from two poles, lots of holes in my arms, and some really really good pain meds. Did you know that when they take blood for blood cultures now they put it in little bottles that look exactly like the small Tabasco bottles? I hope whoever took the blood didn't stop off at the cafeteria on the way to the lab.

They figure it was a spider bite. I don't know, could have been I guess. They put me in a room by myself, declared it an Isolation Unit and made everybody gown and glove when entering just in case it wasn't a spider bite.

It kept swelling and wouldn't pop on it's own so they finally did an Incise and Drain. Hospital people call it the Slice and Stomp. Among the other wrong turns I've taken in my life was becoming an EMT and I remembered the S and S procedure. Sometimes people would pass out from the sight, smell, fluid discharge and resultant high pitched screaming . Sometimes the patient would pass out, too. :msp_biggrin:

They sent me home this evening with a huge ugly crater on the back of my hand, more anti-biotics, and a whole bunch of those good pain meds, too.

Anybody ever have a spider bite? If so, how was it treated and how long did it take to heal up? Nerve/tissue damage? Loss of motor control or residual nerve dysfunction?


And a side note...it's really really hard to sneak off down the hall to the special hiding place where all the hospital staff go to smoke when your're dragging two wheeled IV stands, neither of which will track straight.
 
Without pictures it never happened. Kidding aside hope you get better fast.
 
I just got home from a little three day vacation at our local hospital. Monday morning I had a small red itchy spot on the back of my right hand. Monday evening I had a hand about the size of a catchers mitt...but much more colorful. I went to the local Urgent Care clinic...you know, the one where all the doctors speak with accents and have medical degrees from colleges in Botswana or the small islands of the Caribbean.

Docs In A Box took one look and had me admitted to the real hospital. The one with real doctors. Lots of blood drawn, lots of big IV antibiotic bags hanging from two poles, lots of holes in my arms, and some really really good pain meds. Did you know that when they take blood for blood cultures now they put it in little bottles that look exactly like the small Tabasco bottles? I hope whoever took the blood didn't stop off at the cafeteria on the way to the lab.

They figure it was a spider bite. I don't know, could have been I guess. They put me in a room by myself, declared it an Isolation Unit and made everybody gown and glove when entering just in case it wasn't a spider bite.

It kept swelling and wouldn't pop on it's own so they finally did an Incise and Drain. Hospital people call it the Slice and Stomp. Among the other wrong turns I've taken in my life was becoming an EMT and I remembered the S and S procedure. Sometimes people would pass out from the sight, smell, fluid discharge and resultant high pitched screaming . Sometimes the patient would pass out, too. :msp_biggrin:

They sent me home this evening with a huge ugly crater on the back of my hand, more anti-biotics, and a whole bunch of those good pain meds, too.

Anybody ever have a spider bite? If so, how was it treated and how long did it take to heal up? Nerve/tissue damage? Loss of motor control or residual nerve dysfunction?


And a side note...it's really really hard to sneak off down the hall to the special hiding place where all the hospital staff go to smoke when your're dragging two wheeled IV stands, neither of which will track straight.
Dammit Gologit I'm an engineer not a doctor!. However, I tutored many students in university and one of them became an entomologist. You suffered a necrotizing bite from what I suspect is a Brown recluse spider. Google the little beast. Hope you treat the affected region properly if I am right. (and I almost always am) :)
 
Dammit Gologit I'm an engineer not a doctor!. However, I tutored many students in university and one of them became an entomologist. You suffered a necrotizing bite from what I suspect is a Brown recluse spider. Google the little beast. Hope you treat the affected region properly if I am right. (and I almost always am) :)

Nope...no necrosis...just plenty of edema and localized sepsis. That plus the fact that brown recluse spiders are supposed to be rare around here really has me wondering. There are about a million different kind of bug bite that it might be. Or maybe it wasn't a bug at all. They're really scratching their heads over this. That's why I wanted some first hand information from people who have had something similar.

I have some good antibiotics close to hand and follow-up work scheduled for Tuesday
 
Sorry to hear it Bob. . . Hope you heal up quick!

It was most likely not a Fiddle Back. September is a huge migrating/breeding month for Hobo spiders. The males are the ones that pack a punch, and travel to find a mate. They can be identified by several features -- the the most pronounced will be their spider sex organs on their "face". Called Palps or Palpi, they make the male Hobo look like he's carring around boxing gloves. If they are blunt, and not pointy, you most likely have a Hobo.

I really like spiders, and have taken the time to study up on Hobo males. The only true way to identify them is by magnification and examining their "bits & pieces" carefully.

hobospider.jpg


They also rarely "wet bite", and dry bite humans more often than not. I was examining a male a couple years ago in my grandfathers basement, and he didn't like that I was trying to roll him over to examine his belly. He put a puddle of venom on the floor the size of a nickel. :msp_ohmy:
 
brown recluse bites are ugly
if i were you id be hoping it was a black widow
no joke

I was walking to the bathroom at my old shop years ago, and almost walked face first into a Black Widow hanging from the ceiling. I grabbed it and took it home as a pet, until it died some time later.

Widow bites, in most cases, won't make a "wound", but instead cause abdominal and leg cramps.

I think Widows are rather pretty spiders.
 
Bob, I was doing some reading online, about West coast bite cases. A few turned out to be bacterial from a poke, or sliver, cut, etc.

Make them sweep the wound and test for fungal and bacterial infection.
 
You said you were trained as an EMT so I know I don't have to say this BUT first-hand reminding is never a bad thing:
GOOD pain meds are narcotics. It takes the body a while to acclimate to their sedative and mind-numbing ways. PLEASE don't run a saw when on them for the first 10-15 days or so. Don't drive when tired. Yadda-yadda-yadda.

How do I know? Failed back syndrome since '00, MANY narcotics- currently Kadian(Morphine Sulfate) and Percs as needed, in addition to other meds and a spinal cord stimulator. I've got the chronic pain thing down to a T, hehehe.

Oh, GET BETTER!!!!
 
Any news on this ya old mossback!? ;)

Or did ya have to chew it off like a coyote?

No chewing! I was puttering in the yard today and whacked the bad hand against the side of the house. Hard. Broke everything open again. Got quite a bit more gunk out and it bled well, too. That's a good thing.

Doctor visit tomorrow. The boys with the white coats, stethoscopes, and serious expressions still can't figure out exactly what caused this but it seems to be healing at the rate they expect. That's a good thing also.
 
No chewing! I was puttering in the yard today and whacked the bad hand against the side of the house. Hard. Broke everything open again. Got quite a bit more gunk out and it bled well, too. That's a good thing.

Doctor visit tomorrow. The boys with the white coats, stethoscopes, and serious expressions still can't figure out exactly what caused this but it seems to be healing at the rate they expect. That's a good thing also.

OUCH!! Been there done that. I shot a 16g finish nail thru a knuckle (blew it apart) on a job. . . The next day while driving a nail into some shear, I wrapped it on the plywood during a full hammer swing.

I don't recall exactly, but I'm fairly certain there was some squealing like a little girl, and involuntary urination. :laugh:

Have them Dr. bastards sweep your wound for bacteria/fungus. . . It might not have been a bite.
 
I swear that sounds like a brown recluse. I had a good friend workin on fence posts and the next thing ya know he is in the hospital with all kinds a swelling. he got bit on the knee. Seems like he was in for 3 days as well. They kept draining the fluids, as it looked really bad. When I read your thread that was the 1st thing come to mind.
 
Glad you're healing boy.
Sounds like the Brown Recluse Spider--extremely dangerous. Good prognosis for you.
BUTT: take it easy for a long while. The meds alone can lay you out, as well as getting rid of systemic poison.

No alcohol BTW !
 
A friend of mine got bit by a Brown Recluse above the ankle. He has a prosthesis from the knee down now.
 

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