Splicing

[NickfromWI]

We can do that, LJ. Probably good for you AND them, AND me!

love
nick

 

[MasterBlaster]

So whassup with the forum you haven't started?

 

[NickfromWI]

Alright, butch, let's get it going. Check your pm

 

[MasterBlaster]

Uhhh... Whut pm?

 

[Tree Machine]

So whassup with the forum you haven't started?

What'r you guys talking about?

 

[MasterBlaster]

Rum and cola? Maybe the cola, but I want my whiskey with water!

 

[Tree Machine]

Sorry, Dude. 'Ayatolla of Whisky and Water' just doesn't have the same ring.

How 'bout, 'Astronauta of Whiskey and Watta' ????

 

[Tree Machine]

I'm sorry. Back to splicing. I find this subject absolutely fascinating. Nick is the 'ArboristSite Pope of Splicing Rope'.

He's the "First in the Nation for Termination".

...A spliced eye sorta guy....

HA! I'm a poet, and I don't know it.





(better quit before I blow it)

 

[Jim1NZ]

haha shocking TM

 

[jamie]

too far

on the poetry thing, dont give up the day job, (i've heard the day job is more interesting and fun anyway)

jamie

 

[knudeNoggin]

On the other hand...people do make mistakes. Some are more prone to it, are less attentive to detail, and maybe those shouldn't splice. ...I've seen some bad splices.

I'm still shocked at the Practical Sailor (mag.) Sept'01 article about knots
and hi-modulus ropes, which supposedly checked on the Brion Toss like
article in Sail (June'01): Aramid Rigging, who seem to be closely associated
with Yale Cordage, did some splicing of eyes to terminate one end of the test
specimens, but in Yale Light--a PP(or PE?) sheathed Spectra rope--, their
eyes pulled out before the Bowline broke!! And so they re-tied that end with
a Bowline. The entire article was so egregiously shoddy as to raise all sorts
of questions, but, geeesh, the failed-splice(s) bit was a shocker, esp. in the
case of who & what. (Btw, as an indication of how terrible this article is,
in their table of test results (one test per knot-&-rope) for "Bowline" and
"Yale Light" they listed the value at which the eye splice failed, only explaining
this in a FOOTNOTE to the table entry, where they then gave the (higher)
value at which the bowline broke! --incredible!!&^%$ )

*knudeNoggin*

 

[NickfromWI]

You wouldn't happen to have a copy of that article, would you? The practical sailor website wants $10 to let me read the .pdf. I think I might have to take a trip to the library!

Last I checked, Yale was suggesting a straight up industrial double-braid splice for the Yale Light. Last time I spliced that was the summer of 2003. I wonder what splice they did for the article testing in 2001?

In my opinion, if you were going to try to replicate the Toss article, YaleLight is a weird rope to use. I would've chosen something where the cover is more than just core-protection. Or better yet- a single braid.

love
nick

 

[MasterBlaster]

The practical sailor website wants $10 to let me read the .pdf. I think I might have to take a trip to the library!

Dam!!!

 

[NickfromWI]

Butch, it looks like you should be making $10 a pop for that thing.

love
nick

 

[MasterBlaster]

 

[knudeNoggin]

The PS article is so egregiously flawed that they should PAY YOU $10
to read it--it's truly appalling (again, how could they let a splice fail,
and then report that value in place of the Bowline's but for the footnote,
and ... ). Another item from the article: Sta-Set breaking in a Clove
Hitch at 27%!! ("In Sta-Set, the hitch held but broke quickly."--secured
"w/1 half-hitch") This datum got no discussion, but it should be quite
a shocker, as Sta-set seems to be a sort of standard line, and the Clove
a standard knot, and the breaking strength extraordinarily low!!??

Okay, LuvNik, coming your way (snailmail) ... .

(-;

 

[NickfromWI]

I SWEAR I'm going to the library ASAP to check this out.

luvnik

 

[jamie]

sorry

sorry to drag this up again.

been looking at a brion toss wand. anyone got a decent sized picture, that and a cost and supplier as i can't seem to find many places selling them.

oh and any word on the lumberjack / nick project? not to harrass either of you

cheers

jamie

 

[NickfromWI]

Lumberjack/nick project?

You can see and order the wand at www.briontoss.com. Sherrill also has it. www.wtsherrill.com

love
nick

 

[Jim1NZ]

I just got my rope spliced today. I thought im best to practice on a little end bit of rope before i start on my main climbing line. Plus it only cost $15!!! Every one says its an excellent splice and the guy that spliced it has sent samples to the USA for quality control and passed with flying colours.

Dont know if i want to learn anymore haha.