NickfromWI
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Jim, let's see some pictures!
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Jim1NZ
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NickfromWI said:
Yea that might be a bit of a problem mate, no digital cam!
Il see what i can do a, i climbed on it today, Premo
TonyG
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Splicing...
I'm looking for someone in eastern Pa. or relatively close to splice two eyes in a used Spider Line I use as a light duty bull rope.
Thanks,
Tony Gladski
I'm looking for someone in eastern Pa. or relatively close to splice two eyes in a used Spider Line I use as a light duty bull rope.
Thanks,
Tony Gladski
Jim1NZ
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Ok, i have put it off for ages but i have to learn to splice. Hey nick, where are the best instructions you have seen, i have the Arbormaster instructions so far. What are the tools you use? Cheers
Jim1NZ
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Yea so i got the instructions from samson's site. Should i just give it a go?
SamsonMD
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The splice instructions on Samson's website are the easiest and most complete on the internet. If you have questions, call their customer service, they can help you out.
Tree Machine
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A link to that place within Samson's site, please?
NickfromWI
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eh
how would you splice this rope? adline
i got it from proclimber (in the uk). its got a 16 strand sheath and a braided core. i have spliced is as a standard double braided line according to a combo of yale, samson and marlow splicing instructions.
they all seemed to say the same thing / technique...
i cant find the rope on edelrids website anywhere
my splices
both are on the same cord as a saw strop. they have both supported my weight (about 2" off the ground)
oh and i have so far not got round to whipping it yet.
sorry for the large file size, im drunk and just got in from a storming night out
jamie
how would you splice this rope? adline
i got it from proclimber (in the uk). its got a 16 strand sheath and a braided core. i have spliced is as a standard double braided line according to a combo of yale, samson and marlow splicing instructions.
they all seemed to say the same thing / technique...
i cant find the rope on edelrids website anywhere
my splices
both are on the same cord as a saw strop. they have both supported my weight (about 2" off the ground)
oh and i have so far not got round to whipping it yet.
sorry for the large file size, im drunk and just got in from a storming night out
jamie
NickfromWI
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Jim1NZ said:
Jim, sorry, I must've missed that post. Really all you need are a half-decent measuring tape, a sharpie marker, a good pair of scissors, and a wire coat hanger. There are fancier tools, but they are costly. Best to try it with the cheap stuff until you feel like you got the hang of it and want to keep doing it.
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NickfromWI
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Jamie, from what I understand, and not having held the rope in my hands, the Adline is a polyester double braid and should be spliced as such.
Lock stitch that splice! Low loads (ie- a chainsaw) is where a splice can fail, before the "chinese finger trap" thing starts happenning.
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Lock stitch that splice! Low loads (ie- a chainsaw) is where a splice can fail, before the "chinese finger trap" thing starts happenning.
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SamsonMD
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If it is a double braided climbing line (like Velocity, for instance) you can do a simple Class 1 double braid splice.
http://www.samsonrope.com/home/pdf/ClassI_12Strand_EyeSplice.pdf
The only thing different will be the tapering, as this is for a 12 strand rope.
http://www.samsonrope.com/home/pdf/ClassI_12Strand_EyeSplice.pdf
The only thing different will be the tapering, as this is for a 12 strand rope.
Tree Machine
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Thank you for that SamsonMD. That is an excellent piece. VERY complete, beginning to end. The graphics are good, too. More pictures are better, and you have almost more. You guys have always given us excellent support, as well as excellent rope. If it weren't for Arbos and Mariners, splicing might become an extinct language.
Splicing and terminations are cool.
Splicing and terminations are cool.
sprdave
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I've looked at the instructions on the Sampson site and the neropes site for 16 strand and they both look like a bunch of the core is removed. It looks like the resulting eye splice doesn't have yarns in the loop. Am I right? Is all the strength from the outer (chinese fingercuff) braid?
skwerl
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Welcome Dave, and yes that is correct. For most 16 strand arbo ropes, the core is primarily to help maintain roundness. Almost all the strength is in the outer core.
sprdave
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Nice, I don't have to stuff that core back through.
Bummer, I'll bet it's going to feel like a ski rope when I grab it on the eye.
Maybe I can stuff some yarns from a doner rope for the bend of the eye.
Bummer, I'll bet it's going to feel like a ski rope when I grab it on the eye.
Maybe I can stuff some yarns from a doner rope for the bend of the eye.
NickfromWI
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You will have plenty of left over strands that you can use to fill the eye. It's tough, but it can be done.
Why do you need the eye to have a core in it?
Yale's splice for the 16 strand rope has the core IN the eye, but you need a machine to do it.
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Why do you need the eye to have a core in it?
Yale's splice for the 16 strand rope has the core IN the eye, but you need a machine to do it.
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sprdave
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I don't need to have a core in it for any purpose other than to make it feel nice. Comfort while I'm rigging up. About 10 seconds of my day while I'm pulling the loop through a clip or something. When I think of a rope with no core, I think of a waterski rope, which always feel chummy to me. I'll be Ok.
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