Stihl MS 291 burnt out after 1 hr

[lone wolf]

I agree that it will pull it, especially with a 16" bar but according to the 2013 Stihl catalog it should have .325p .063ga 26 RM3 67 chain on bar 3003 812 7013. OP says it has full chisel and 3/8p from the dealer, will be interested to see the sprocket (it could have been converted to a rim sprocket, too). 3/8 .050 aggressive chain may have contributed to the heat generated around the clutch.

What do you think Stihl would say if you put a 3/8 setup on your self and it called for .325 then had a meltdown and you wanted it covered
?

 

[Weesa20]

I think they would tell me to get lost. I actually did this to my MS290, and with the right sprocket, it is fine with 3/8 50 chain. But I also did it knowing that I was taking full responsibility for what happened to the saw.

 

[lone wolf]

I think they would tell me to get lost. I actually did this to my MS290, and with the right sprocket, it is fine with 3/8 50 chain. But I also did it knowing that I was taking full responsibility for what happened to the saw.

So on the other hand if they sold him the saw that way it would be on them logically. Why would they do that though?

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Could it be possible that the op simply neglected to grease the bar tip, thus seizing the tip, giving a chain brake on symptom, then putting the brake on when it was actually off, thus causing this irresponsible damage?

That's something I always forget to do..

 

[opinion]

What do you think Stihl would say if you put a 3/8 setup on your self and it called for .325 then had a meltdown and you wanted it covered
?

They offer 3/8 050 7T as an option. I don't see why the dealer would put that setup on if they customer didn't ask for it since it comes from the factory with .325.

 

[lone wolf]

They offer 3/8 050 7T as an option. I don't see why the dealer would put that setup on if they customer didn't ask for it since it comes from the factory with .325.

I don't get that part either.

 

[west041]

I don't get that part either.

Sorry for the confusion, I just got home and checked and it is .325.

 

[RedFir Down]

Can you post a few more pictures? A close up of the saw where the damage is, one of the inside of the clutch drum and one of the outside of the clutch drum.
That will really help figure this out.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Sorry for the confusion, I just got home and checked and it is .325.

I don't see much difference between them on a 290 size saw, I like 3/8 because most of my saws use that and I don't have to stock up on both..

 

[lone wolf]

I don't see much difference between them on a 290 size saw, I like 3/8 because most of my saws use that and I don't have to stock up on both..

You will in Oak .

 

[west041]

I don't see much difference between them on a 290 size saw, I like 3/8 because most of my saws use that and I don't have to stock up on both..

All my saws are 3/8 as well.

 

[albert]

Bar oiler stopped working or stopped up, that would melt a few things. Look at the bar and see if it is burn't

The bar pad on the case looks ok, usually gets melted if no oil to bar

 

[albert]

What is over rev in the wood? Anytime the chain slows or stops above idle, you have a slipping clutch, ie heat. Even slight slippage will generate a surprising amount of heat in a very short time.

 

[Weesa20]

All my saws are 3/8 as well.

As are any of my bucking/felling saws, just easier to manage chains/bars which is why I converted the ms290.

Depending on the dealer, I could see a situation where they don't have a setup that the customer is requesting and so they put an "optional" setup on it to make the sale.

Not an issue any more though since the saw in question has .325 as it should.

 

[CTYank]

Hahaha tree monkey that was classic! Keep 'em coming! Why don't you put your name and address up at the end of your posts and I'll tell you in person?

Now that is really over the top. Sure sounds like threatening. How 'bout name & address Mister Man?

 

[Weesa20]

Yeah, the thread went sideways for awhile but I think it's back on track now...

 

[lone wolf]

Yeah, the thread went sideways for awhile but I think it's back on track now...

 

[Knobby57]

A 291 will handle a 3/8 chain if you respect it for what you have . Chain has to be sharp not just sort of sharp . And yes as stated earlier it's hard to bog a 041 in relation to new saws .
It would not surprise me if stihl covers the repair under goodwill . Buying a saw every 20-30 years doesn't give you a lot of standing as a loyal customer but it is worth a try . If I where talking to stihl I would not be adamant about it not being operator error . I would just say I was using the saw in a manner that you felt the saw was built for . And that you are disappointed that a quality saw like a stihl would fail after limited use.


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[Knobby57]

I think a few of the arrogant ones need a good threatening. Make them step back and realize that there might just be someone crazy enough to show up to you door step and shove a ms 291 right up your a--. Stranger things have happend. Can't really think of any though.

I work with a guy that drove 200 miles and got arrested threatening a guy over a broken VW starter he paid 50$ for . It does happen but I think this meathead is the exception to the rule .
Now the guy that flew 1500 miles to accuse me of messing around with his gf was another story


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[Weesa20]

I work with a guy...
Now the guy that flew 1500 miles to accuse me of messing around with his gf was another story


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