Stihl ms201t

[lone wolf]

I just bought a 192 at a pawn shop for $80. That makes three, but one's a parts saw and one needs the case from the parts saw. The 192 is my backup tree saw. I have two 200s but one needs a diaphragm. I'm thinking about having that 200 re-worked for performance and mounting the new lightweight 16" bar on it.

A 14 inch bar is the best overall size and pull the screen out of the muffler and richen up the H jet a bit.

 

[lxt]

AA

what i did to mine is: remove spark arrester/screen from muffler, a muffler mod basically consists of drilling larger holes in the muffler, a topic you might find on here...somewhere!

Ya gotta play with the H/L screws a little, I ported & polished mine, run a hotter plug..........& a few other more involved little secrets for better perfomance. I waited for about a year before really modding it up though, just in case!!!

I bought my 192`s for back up also & then they just became the de-limbing saw for the groundman who if runs a big saw ditches the bar in to the ground..........



LXT.........

 

[the Aerialist]

A 14 inch bar is the best overall size and pull the screen out of the muffler and richen up the H jet a bit.

I run 14" bars on all my tree saws, and the screen goes even on a new saw, but yesterday I bought the Stihl "Light" bar which is 30% lighter due to it's composite sandwich construction, sticker price was $75 but I got it for $60. Still a bit more than I like to pay for a 16" bar but I want to try it out on one of my 200s. I mounted it up and the balance of the saw is not disturbed, if anything it feels like I have a 12" on it. Of course the 16" has more reach to it and I hope it will mean I don't have to have a bigger saw sent up as much.

 

[lone wolf]

They run so good to start you really dont need much I find the bigger hole drilled blasts your hearing to much just the screen out is all you need.A 12 inch bar screams on the branches.

 

[the Aerialist]

... I bought my 192`s for back up also & then they just became the de-limbing saw for the groundman who if runs a big saw ditches the bar in to the ground...

My ground guys get all my saws in the dirt by the end of the day so I'm limiting top handle saws to when you are off the ground. I bought a used Farm Boss for the ground guys to use. Cousin Lee bought a new 260 exclusively for his own use (he did let me break it in by dropping a tree with it) so he is covered, and my new ground guy brings his own saw (a Pukelan) so all I have to worry about are the nephews careless habits.

... what i did to mine is: remove spark arrester/screen from muffler, a muffler mod basically consists of drilling larger holes in the muffler, a topic you might find on here...somewhere!

Ya gotta play with the H/L screws a little, I ported & polished mine, run a hotter plug..........& a few other more involved little secrets for better perfomance. I waited for about a year before really modding it up though, just in case!!!...

Yeah, it's those little secrets that I want to put on one of my 200s so it will turn the 16" bar deep in an Oak if need be. What kind of gains can I expect to get? Are there any big bore kits for the 200?

 

[the Aerialist]

Well I do wear hearing protection ...

They run so good to start you really dont need much I find the bigger hole drilled blasts your hearing to much just the screen out is all you need.A 12 inch bar screams on the branches.

I did have one of the 192s set up with a 12" bar and I liked it for de-limbing Pines.

 

[lxt]

those little secrets will have ya splitting the case!! My pap is a whiz on that stuff, I dabble in the easy stuff or rebuilds.....the drilled holes will require use of ear protection thats for sure.

I know some crank work was done........but I dont suggest doing this unless you have a spare saw & know what you`re doing, My pap use to build competition hot saws, so he has a good ability in "hot roddin" however he takes his time & im a want it done yesterday type.......but the wait is worth it!

Ill see if I can find out what he does.........If he`ll tell, due to me doing less tree work & transitioning, he dont really do much saw work any more.......he had a quad by-pass the year for me, eyesight not what it use to be & hands not as steady!! so he Mods up his stump machine...........bigger pieces to play with...LOL


LXT.............

 

[the Aerialist]

Bored & Stroked FTW ...

those little secrets will have ya splitting the case!! My pap is a whiz on that stuff, I dabble in the easy stuff or rebuilds.....the drilled holes will require use of ear protection thats for sure.

I know some crank work was done........but I dont suggest doing this unless you have a spare saw & know what you`re doing, My pap use to build competition hot saws, so he has a good ability in "hot roddin" however he takes his time & im a want it done yesterday type.......but the wait is worth it!

Ill see if I can find out what he does.........If he`ll tell, due to me doing less tree work & transitioning, he dont really do much saw work any more...

Matt's sending some saws out to be modded so I'll see how that works out for him. If it's reasonable I'll ship the powerhead to be tweaked by a pro. The 200 in question needs some work anyway and with my "new" backup 192 I'll get by now that slow season is here.

 

[redoakneck]

I run 14" bars on all my tree saws, and the screen goes even on a new saw, but yesterday I bought the Stihl "Light" bar which is 30% lighter due to it's composite sandwich construction, sticker price was $75 but I got it for $60. Still a bit more than I like to pay for a 16" bar but I want to try it out on one of my 200s. I mounted it up and the balance of the saw is not disturbed, if anything it feels like I have a 12" on it. Of course the 16" has more reach to it and I hope it will mean I don't have to have a bigger saw sent up as much.

Where did you get your 16" stihl lite bar??? My dealer said he could not get them anymore. Saw some for 82 bucks on the e-bay?? Pretty steep for a 16" bar, 60 is a great deal!!!

 

[the Aerialist]

Where did you get your 16" stihl lite bar??? My dealer said he could not get them anymore. Saw some for 82 bucks on the e-bay?? Pretty steep for a 16" bar, 60 is a great deal!!!

Ianetti's a landscape and supply company (and Stihl Dealer) almost in WVa. They had one in there since Summer tagged at $75 so I asked the old guy who runs it if he'd cut me a break since it wasn't selling at that price. He did.

 

[cooey]

Thanks for your two bits boyes.Maybe Stihl will pull there heads out of there butts and make some case and handle improvements for 2012-2013. It seems stihl has also headed down the road of disposible products. All we can do is keep makin saw dust and hope for the best with the 201T's.........



Cooey..

 

[lone wolf]

Thanks for your two bits boyes.Maybe Stihl will pull there heads out of there butts and make some case and handle improvements for 2012-2013. It seems stihl has also headed down the road of disposible products. All we can do is keep makin saw dust and hope for the best with the 201T's.........



Cooey..

Could we be at a turning point and older saws will still kick ass and new ones will start being choked by the EPA?

 

[tree MDS]

The 201T just doesn't have it.... even blake's modded brand new one sounds gay. It's like they put the 200T on antidepressants and gave it a vagina.. what's next, one of those girl friendy recoils?? Grr... And to think, my local hardware/lawn and garden store had a 200t left.. but no, I had to buy a 372 instead because a certain someone smashed one of mine to a pulp with a sycamore stubb, so I didn't make it in time...

 

[Toddppm]

Looks like they still have those ####ty caps on the 201's? Such a simple thing to ruin and make a pia.

 

[epicklein22]

The 201T just doesn't have it.... even blake's modded brand new one sounds gay. It's like they put the 200T on antidepressants and gave it a vagina.. what's next, one of those girl friendy recoils?? Grr... And to think, my local hardware/lawn and garden store had a 200t left.. but no, I had to buy a 372 instead because a certain someone smashed one of mine to a pulp with a sycamore stubb, so I didn't make it in time...

Gay? They sound good with the muffler mod and no different than any other saw really. The 200t has it's own sound though. It's alright if you guys are bitter about the 200t being put to death (it's an amazing saw, one of the very best ever made), but let's keep it based on facts. The 201t isn't a slouch like you guys act like it is.

When I modded the 201t, I compared it back to back with the 200t. Even had one in the left hand, one in the right hand. 200t sounds like it's gonna blow and spoils up fast, 201t sounds a little throatier, and spoils just a tad slower, but is stronger in the cut. I'm gonna have to see about making a video myself.

 

[epicklein22]

Yes Ive ran a 192..............own 2 of em along with an 020 & 200T & many more............the new 201 has a lot of 192 features is what im saying, the spring on the low end of the handle....like a 192, the body design...like a 192............yes the 201 can be made to run better...but who cares when the case is falling apart!!!! I to do all my own saw work & my father had a shop for more years than I am old.............that dont mean chiot, climb with that 201 & drag it through the tree, see if when you`re swinging around if it will take the abuse of the 020 or 200T.............Cause it wont!!!!

The stihl shop(s) I frequent have many of the 201`s sitting in the repair bin tagged & waiting for handle springs , replacement cases, etc.. They`re Junk!!!! unless you run em like they`re wearing a skirt, then you`ll be ok!


LXT..............

I respect your opinion, but the saw resembles a 200t, not a 192. Gonna have to do some picture comparison. You are correct about the spring AV, that's about it. 201 shares the similar tank, crankcase and handle designs. What I like about the 201 is an improved on/off switch, better carb (hopefully no more accelerator pump problems), tank vent and hopefully they did away with the bakolite type crank seals (A big PITA to change).

200t are good saws overall (I own 2, a rear handle and a top handle), but they suffered from a lot of carb problems, tank vent issues, and I've bought a few with broken cranks. The 020t was a amazing saw as well, but the 200t is faster, as they changed porting and carbs.

I let my buddy climb with the 201 on a 36" pin oak crane removal since the limbs were very horizontal and covered in ice, so he was crawling all around the tree and smacking the saw the entire time. It did a great job. We usually only use a 044 or 460 with the crane.

 

[epicklein22]

Thanks for your two bits boyes.Maybe Stihl will pull there heads out of there butts and make some case and handle improvements for 2012-2013. It seems stihl has also headed down the road of disposible products. All we can do is keep makin saw dust and hope for the best with the 201T's.........



Cooey..

The internet is a bad place to start rumors based on just a few problems of a couple members. I was reading about the new 6.7 ford diesel and a guy blew one up because a rock put a hole in his oil pan. Is the new ford 6.7 diesel now junk because of that issue?

The springs probably got pulled out because someone got the saw stuck. As for crankcase problems, what are you doing to pop a hole in it or break it? Probably got dropped out of the tree, the stuff happens. My 200t needs a new chainbrake handle because of gravity and I had a tank break as well before.

 

[lone wolf]

The internet is a bad place to start rumors based on just a few problems of a couple members. I was reading about the new 6.7 ford diesel and a guy blew one up because a rock put a hole in his oil pan. Is the new ford 6.7 diesel now junk because of that issue?

The springs probably got pulled out because someone got the saw stuck. As for crankcase problems, what are you doing to pop a hole in it or break it? Probably got dropped out of the tree, the stuff happens. My 200t needs a new chainbrake handle because of gravity and I had a tank break as well before.

My mechanic and the owner of Napa said to stay away from them trucks.

 

[epicklein22]

My mechanic and the owner of Napa said to stay away from them trucks.

They're too new for anyone to make a real judgement. I'm seeing a ton of them on the road though and have heard nothing but good things from the owners, probably has something to do with the 400 hp and 800 lbs of torque too. Puts my old 7.3 to shame in the power department. I'm gonna step into a late model 7.3 in the spring hopefully.

 

[lone wolf]

Same with the 201 T wait and see how they do in 1 year.