Stihl MS441CRM-Tronic Ported Work Saw Review

[Stihlman441]

Stihlman, please don't take this wrong, but has anyone else noticed how much stronger Porsches 441 is, yet they're from the same builder. Porsches looks to holds a lot more RMPs in the wood. There's something significantly different between those two saws.

All comments good and bad i am pretty hard to afend so go for your life.

From what i understand my Sawzilla is a little different that Johns,with internal parts machined differently and apparently slightly stronger.
This Sawzilla was never supposed to be a cooky cutting race saw in anyway,i asked for a work saw and thats what i got,and in the vids i am trying to represent that environment.
In the vids i have been using a full chisel .035'' raker work chain which i use on green softer woods eg Sugargum,Stringybark and in the last vid the wood was pine one of the softest woods.
In the end the Sawzilla will be set up with one of those 28'' Light bars and be my felling saw using all the good things about it and take advantage of them.
As you have experienced those 441Cs require a light torch and controlled push rate as i would call it to get the rpm and its control system working for you.
Cheers got some trees to cut.
Andrew

 

[Stihlman441]

I have been out today cutting Swompgum which i think is the best firewood around my area and its hard and very very hard when dry.I put a 25'' bar and a Stihl RSC chain and a 7 pin sprocket on the 441CRM-Tronic and ended putting 4 tanks or fuel thought it,its getting better all the time.
These trees were along a stone wall fence so the aim was not to damage it at all (built buy prisoners of war and convicts in the old days) under Australian trust so if ya f_ck ya have to fix it by law.We strapped a steel cage on the tracter forks and i got in it with the 261 and we cut the over hanging branches off that were hanging over the stone wall.
Vid coming.

 

[Slamm]

Genius use of an old tote cage. I will have to use that idea for an attachment I made for my skid loader where I welded a 2 stage forklift mast to a skid loader mounting plate for high reach. I have been wondering about making a caged platform for it, and I have several old totes that would work great. Thanks for that photo.

How many tanks do you have through your saw now. I hit 10 yesterday. I really like mine, even not modded, and I can't say that about any other saw. It sure is a pleasant saw to operate, the cold 1-2 pulls (total) when completely cold starting puts a grin on my face in the morning, LOL. I tried that pulling the trigger to pop it off of choke setting and sure enough, it flips the lever up.

I hope all saws act like this one in the future. If the 661 acts like this with obviously more power and doesn't get any heavier, boy will they have a winner on their hands. I haven't decided if I'm going to cut or skid today, I want to run the saw more, but I'm not sure I can get the trees skid in and bucked up before it rains.

Have fun down there,

Sam

 

[Stihlman441]

The farmer wonts all there Swomp gums cut down,in this plantation around 60 trees because when they damage the stone wall he has to fix them under the Australian Heritage trust rules.
The 441C got a good run,4 tanks of fuel(i think its on the 12 th all up) and it is realy freed up know and seams to rev more,this is with a 25'' RSC chain and 7 pin.

[video=youtube;nHfKaj2CC5Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHfKaj2CC5Y[/video]

 

[Andyshine77]

Andrew it looks quite strong and responsive, love the way it sounds as well.

 

[AUSSIE1]

Andrew it sounds like it's doing it's thing to me, especially .035 on the rakers in that wood. I'd probably go less on the rakers though.

 

[Meadow Beaver]

I'm actually fairly impressed the way this saw turned out. Might be an ms441 cm or 576 autotune on my list next.

 

[Stihlman441]

Andrew it sounds like it's doing it's thing to me, especially .035 on the rakers in that wood. I'd probably go less on the rakers though.

Ya mate you are right about the raker depth,in the last vid that chain and bar normally lives on the Snellerized 660,it was a bit grabby and had to be gentle with the pushing,but thats a nother reason why i put that chain and bar on there to see if it could pull it ok and it does the job.

 

[CR500]

I can not wait to see what this saw can do with a 28'' against the 660 & 460. Andrew I am wondering how u think that saw would pull a 32'' I mean I am thinking about getting this saw over a 461/ 460 if it can pull a 32'' close or the same as a 460/461. I mean I have ran a 441 before with a 20 & 25 and it did not impress me like a 440 or 044 did. After seeing and hearing this saw perform I am almost sold.

 

[blsnelling]

Oh yeah. Each vid you post, the saw sounds stronger. It's definately sounding angry now! Nice.

 

[AUSSIE1]

Ya mate you are right about the raker depth,in the last vid that chain and bar normally lives on the Snellerized 660,it was a bit grabby and had to be gentle with the pushing,but thats a nother reason why i put that chain and bar on there to see if it could pull it ok and it does the gob.

It didn't stall so it's doing a champion job! :msp_thumbup:

 

[Stihlman441]

I can not wait to see what this saw can do with a 28'' against the 660 & 460. Andrew I am wondering how u think that saw would pull a 32'' I mean I am thinking about getting this saw over a 461/ 460 if it can pull a 32'' close or the same as a 460/461. I mean I have ran a 441 before with a 20 & 25 and it did not impress me like a 440 or 044 did. After seeing and hearing this saw perform I am almost sold.

Ya i cant wait as well the 28'' is still on way from US,its going to be interesting.
As far as pulling a 32'' i dont know about that dont forget this saw is ported and about 30 % better than a stocky,depends on the wood you are going to cut i suppose.

 

[Stihlman441]

Been out and picked up two Sugargum logs that i am going to mill up into rails,they were a bit heavey than i expected lucky the air bags under the ute but as you can see even then enough is enough.Lucky its a one tone ute :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Stihlman441]

If ya interested in fuel use going by the Works Connection tachs

441CRM-Tronic ported 10 tanks for 3.6 hrs 725 mil / tank

660 BB kit 7 tanks for 3.1 hrs 825 mil / tank

 

[MCW]

Ya i cant wait as well the 28'' is still on way trom US,its going to be interesting.
As far as pulling a 32'' i dont know about that dont forget this saw is ported and about 30 % better than a stocky,depends on the wood you are going to cut i suppose.

Yeah you're right Andrew with the type of wood. When I see guys in the states debating on whether they should run an 8 pin with a 32" bar and full chisel I just want to lick the computer screen. An 8 pin on a 32" bar in our average wood is the realms of a 3120/880 or an off it's face 660 (like the one I had).
In softwood it is probably an easy decision but in our hardwoods I'd think your 441 will pull a 28" bar easily considering the torque of the stratos. I'd think a 7 pin rim is the go there the way these M-Tronics like to rev.

 

[Stihlman441]

Andrew it looks quite strong and responsive, love the way it sounds as well.

I tell you what you cant use this saw with out ear muffs,i love the way it pops,crackles and carrys on,im having trouble picking up any other saw at the moment.

 

[MCW]

I tell you what you cant use this saw with out ear muffs,i love the way it pops,crackles and carrys on,im having trouble picking up any other saw at the moment.

You don't say?

 

[Stihlman441]

What

 

[MCW]

What

Well put it this way, I don't think you've used another saw since it arrived
I gathered you'd had trouble picking up another saw

 

[Stihlman441]

Bring on the 661C M-Tronic.