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switch back to a rim drive drum. Same cost to buy initially and when a rim is worn out it is $5 to replace instead of another $20 drum.
Stihl vs Tsumura Bars
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gunnusmc03
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And if you're running a rim drive you're can also switch rims and try different tooth rims.
merkel
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What do the larger saws run? Spur or rim?
merkel
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Ok.....after some research I will put the rim back on but have a few questions. I have the original Stihl rim drum but need to change my rim to the new chain which is 3/8 x .063. Will all the rims be 7 tooth and if not what tooth would be best? Where can I pick up just the rims and prefer Stihl or if there is a better brand please let me know? This drum uses the same needle bearing as the spur correct?
Justsaws
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Any Stihl dealer should have the rim you are looking for. There are two different sizes of drum splines so you should take the drum with you to the dealer. They should have Stihl branded rims which are fine as well as Oregon.
The rims are availible in many different configurations so tell them what you are looking for and show them the drum you have.
The larger upgraded kit uses a different bearing and rim than the spur, at least from what I have seen.
The original drum/hub used a smaller bearing and rim spline and was replaced with a larger bearing that used a larger spline. It was a kit, bearing, hub and rim. Both rims were 3/8 x 7 but the spline is larger on the upgraded hub and rim to accommodate the lager bearing.
The rims are availible in many different configurations so tell them what you are looking for and show them the drum you have.
The larger upgraded kit uses a different bearing and rim than the spur, at least from what I have seen.
The original drum/hub used a smaller bearing and rim spline and was replaced with a larger bearing that used a larger spline. It was a kit, bearing, hub and rim. Both rims were 3/8 x 7 but the spline is larger on the upgraded hub and rim to accommodate the lager bearing.
merkel
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I would like the upgrade kit for sure. Does a 3/8 rim fit the .050 and the.063 or do I need to spec my .063? Any part numbers would be great if available.
Justsaws
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All three of the common gauges(.050, .058, .063)of 3/8 pitch chain will fit a 3/8 rim.
Do not have the part numbers.
Do a search for 034 Super clutch drum upgrade, good thread with pictures and part numbers.
Edited for stupidness.
Do not have the part numbers.
Do a search for 034 Super clutch drum upgrade, good thread with pictures and part numbers.
Edited for stupidness.
weedkilla
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Think this is a typo.
All three gauges of 3/8 chain - .050, .058, and .063, fit the same 3/8 sprocket
325, 3/8 and 404 need different sprockets.
Justsaws
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Whoops, well close enough. Thanks , hopefully the OP has it figured out.
gunnusmc03
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They're both sprockets.. Rim sprocket and nose sprocket.
SawTroll
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Well, at least GB makes bar that are called "Titanium", but I understand that there actually is no Titanium in the finished bars?
Husky has had some GB bars rebranded for them, but I believe those are the regular Pro Tops (I may be wrong about that though).
SawTroll
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Yes, but what options exist will depend on the size of the splined portion of the drum. As this is an 036, there is a chance that drum has the mini 7-spline (or small 7-spline if is Oregon ), and that limits the options in 3/8" is 7-pin. If it is a standard (sometimes called large) 7-spline, there are more options.
With a bar as long as 20", only 7-pin makes sense to me on a 036 though - just make sure what you get fit the right spline option.
I remember seeing something showing makeup of it was less than 1% titanium.
They should have titanium bars and chains, for those who prefer spending money instead of time. On the other hand, if its in the budget for a new bar, and you dont feel like f---n with it, so be it! It happens, we've all been there.. We should not judge our less easily motivated brethren! After all if we wanted to do manual labor we wouldnt have chainsaws, would we?Might as well buy a new chain as well for when you don't feel like sharpening you have a spare ready .
Technically since stihl bars are painted white I would bet that there is a very small percentage of Titanium in the paint.
fearofpavement
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I consider servicing bars the same as sharpening chain. I knew a guy that never sharpened chains, he spun his own loops and when they got dull, he replaced them with a new one.
A budget bar servicing disk sander can be made by grinding the sides of the teeth off a worn out plywood blade and installing it on a radial arm or table saw. (after gluing a piece of sandpaper to it with rubber cement)
A budget bar servicing disk sander can be made by grinding the sides of the teeth off a worn out plywood blade and installing it on a radial arm or table saw. (after gluing a piece of sandpaper to it with rubber cement)
SawTroll
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What I recall is that a very small amount was used in the rail hardening prosess - but it is quite some time since this was discussed much, and I believe most "info" were just guesses....
Anyway, they aren't light bars - and a bar made of Titanium likely would be useless, except maybe in "fillers".
merkel
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What is the difference between the 361 compared with the 036 Pro? When looking up the upgrade kit for the sprocket/rim/needle bearing I search the 034Super. I guess the 036 and 034 are the same saw in this area?
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would plating the bar or around the nose of the bar and rail with stellite help reduce wear?
Justsaws
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The 361 (1135 series)replaced the 360/036/034S/034(1125 series). It uses spring AV and quad port cylinder, it was replaced by the 362 which in a totally different saw as well. Very few parts should be considered inter changeable between the 361 and 1125 series.
The 1125 series saws had many changes to them during the production run such as mufflers, crank construction, air filters/carbs and plastics not to mention piston and cylinders. In most cases the parts can be considered interchangeable within the 1125 series. Mufflers, air filters/carbs and getting plastics to match would be the odd ball stuff and all easily worked around.
The 361(1135)is all alone in terms of most parts.
Justsaws
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It would be pricey and probably really hard on chains. Would not take much of a bend to crack it.
