Sudden loss of compression

[RiverRat2]

You go Trigger,,,,

In the pic you can see over spray on the AV mounts. They should
be black not white.

Enamel overhaul,,, I say what you are seeing,,,, This is just like CSI,,,, we just gotta bust this guy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[59Billy]

Just wondering if there was anything new on this ???


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I just got off the phone with the seller. He's going to give me a 100% refund, and I'll ship the saw back to him. If he finds any problem like an air leak that could have caused the meltdown, he'll refund my return shipping as well. What more could I ask for?

I can understand him being reluctant at first, and maybe thinking I'd fed it straight gas or something equally stupid. Dealing with internet strangers is always chancey. Sadly, I live in an area where nothing bigger than a 290 or 455 ever seems to show up for sale.

 

[04ultra]

I just got off the phone with the seller. He's going to give me a 100% refund, and I'll ship the saw back to him. If he finds any problem like an air leak that could have caused the meltdown, he'll refund my return shipping as well. What more could I ask for?

I can understand him being reluctant at first, and maybe thinking I'd fed it straight gas or something equally stupid. Dealing with internet strangers is always chancey. Sadly, I live in an area where nothing bigger than a 290 or 455 ever seems to show up for sale.

You just cant ask for much more .. Glad its going to work out.



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[XJWoody]

Glad that it's working out

Although it would be a drag to get ones hopes up & be let down like that. This is why I'd be leery to buy anything used/sight unseen...unless it was from someone I felt I could really trust.

Also why I"m leery of selling my 'almost new' 029 Super. I know it only has less than 1 tankful of 50:1 mix through it - not even begun to break in. (The bar & factory OEM chain wear show that as well) But in truth, it's a new saw with 8 year old seals/bearings, and who's to say it wouldn't blow up tomorrow - for me or anyone else. I highly doubt it would, but ya never know. And I'd feel like a Grade A schmuck for passing it along if it did.

I suppose it'll make a good backup saw in case my other saws lay down (doubtful, but there is a chance) or I may give it to my brother in law for his birthday (he has an identical 029S and loves it) as a backup for his. He keeps our little meadow bush-hogged, and driveway bladed, so it's a fair trade IMO.

 

[bwalker]

Whats the odds this clunker shows up on Ebay in short order?

 

[bwalker]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWN:IT&viewitem=&item=290086542586&rd=1&rd=1
Isnt this Eric Copsey AKA Woodsjunkies Ebay ID?

 

[Cut4fun]

The first things I check when I first buy a used saw, since i buy saws from all over the world. I dont have no leak testers, but the rest is a must imo. I have gotten alot of saws that have come from different elevations and ran 32-1 mix, if I hadn't changed the carb settings to 4-stroking and then back off a hair, I then could have had a lean condition melt down like in the pics of this 066.
Did the saw seem like it ran like a bat out of hecc the first time you used it? If so I have had that on alot of saws I have bought and had to adjust carbs for my area and mix, because they were running like a bat from hecc and was a tad lean.
So did you adjust the carb to your area and your mix before putting in the cuts?
Did you adjust the carb to 4 stroking and then back off a hair for adjustment on carb?
Just wondering what was done on your part before running a new used saw?

 

[bwalker]

A can of brake cleaner or a propane torch will work great in testing for a air leak.

 

[Cut4fun]

I have tried starter fluid, does the others work the same way?

 

[bwalker]

Yes, but be careful with ether as its very flammable. Hot muffler+ether= torched saw.

 

[59Billy]

The first things I check when I first buy a used saw, since i buy saws from all over the world. I dont have no leak testers, but the rest is a must imo. I have gotten alot of saws that have come from different elevations and ran 32-1 mix, if I hadn't changed the carb settings to 4-stroking and then back off a hair, I then could have had a lean condition melt down like in the pics of this 066.
Did the saw seem like it ran like a bat out of hecc the first time you used it? If so I have had that on alot of saws I have bought and had to adjust carbs for my area and mix, because they were running like a bat from hecc and was a tad lean.
So did you adjust the carb to your area and your mix before putting in the cuts?
Did you adjust the carb to 4 stroking and then back off a hair for adjustment on carb?
Just wondering what was done on your part before running a new used saw?

All I did was add mix and bar oil. I'm definitely building up a checklist to go through before starting any other freshly received saw. In fact, I might be tempted to pay the local Stihl dealer to inspect, setup and test, just for CYA in case there is a problem.

 

[00juice]

When I bought an 084 of ebay about two months ago, I took it straight to the dealer before i started, so that it any problems couldn't be put onto me. It was a good idea, because the cylinder and piston were toasted, and it made it easy for me to make my case with the seller. For the money it costs, i think i'll always take the saw to a third party to have it checked out before firing it up.

 

[tek9tim]

Isnt this Eric Copsey AKA Woodsjunkies Ebay ID?

Exactly what I was thinking when I looked at that 5100. Couldn't remember the user name, but knew that saw had been on the trading post before going onto ebay. He probably saw the discussion on his saw, and knew he had to treat you right.

 

[59Billy]

When I bought an 084 of ebay about two months ago, I took it straight to the dealer before i started, so that it any problems couldn't be put onto me. It was a good idea, because the cylinder and piston were toasted, and it made it easy for me to make my case with the seller. For the money it costs, i think i'll always take the saw to a third party to have it checked out before firing it up.

For that matter, a new 660 somehow doesn't seem quite as expensive as it did before.

 

[THALL10326]

I just got off the phone with the seller. He's going to give me a 100% refund, and I'll ship the saw back to him. If he finds any problem like an air leak that could have caused the meltdown, he'll refund my return shipping as well. What more could I ask for?

I can understand him being reluctant at first, and maybe thinking I'd fed it straight gas or something equally stupid. Dealing with internet strangers is always chancey. Sadly, I live in an area where nothing bigger than a 290 or 455 ever seems to show up for sale.

What more could you ask for Billy, I'll tell ya, you could ask for the truth though its not likely you will get it. First off this idea of striaght gas is BS 100%. Anyone that knows saw engines can look at that piston and see it was not a striaght gas seizure but a lean seizure melt down from running too fast or simply put, overheating, not lack of lube in the mix. How do I know, because I sat at VA Beach and we delibertly burnt up engines with proper oil mix and they looked exactly like the piston in the pics. A striaght gas seizure looks very different from a lean melt down seizure. Secondly the ad said the saw checked out fine so why is it being checked again? The ad said the man who traded it in had just put a new top end on it so why wasn't it checked for air leaks then? Apparently from what happened it did not check out so fine after all, if checked at all. Heres the clincher that exposes the truth. Is the e-bay seller the man that took it in as the trade, a dealer? , or is he a man that bought it from a a dealer and resold it? There lies the truth. I'd lay money it was bought cheap from a dealer with the purpose of putting it on e-bay after making it look good. Other words bought to merely make a buck on. I wonder if thats the only 066 bought by the seller to make a buck on because this saw has parts on it from various model runs, or pieced together. Thats where the facts tend to point. This deal of if it has a air leak I'll refund is pure BS. Remember the ad said it checked out fine. What did the saw do , POP A AIR LEAK WHILE ON UPS TO THE BUYER, seller get real. If everything checked out fine that saw would have ran longer than 20 minutes. If it checked so dayumm fine it would still be running. Give the man his money back and quit looking for excuses not to.

Billy beware of Evil-bay, get your money back and learn your lesson well, those the operate in the dark ususally do so for a reason, I think you know what that reason is now..

 

[trimmmed]

Well Billy, I don't think you could ask for anything more than that.

The seller did the right thing here, period. Regardless of how or why the saw blew, that is commendable and stand up.


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