There is no way a 15' log "has no space under", or some tension wood or compression wood to work with... this is all about technique, not tools or equipment...
Technique to cut up huge log full on ground (no space under)
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wow, thats awesome idea! i do have space for my truck to do that!
will do, thank you. i'm waiting for a chainsaw part to come in, but will look for this
i've been able to do this on prior logs. just concerned with this piece. i gotta get out there and try to roll it with the can't hook first, and the truck roll second. won't be able to get out there for a few days
interesting idea. thanks. will save this one also in my tips. what happened was my hyper neighbors couldn't mind their business and they cut the small limbs off the downed trunk. otherwise i'd have more opportunity for space underneath. the vultures came in for the wood and because they are bored
i had no idea this would cause the tree to raise up. pretty amazing. not sure if i will need to get to this method, but maybe easiest
nice tip, thanks
no winch!
cut by brail, or rather use the nose and watch the color of the chips, have to use your imagination a little bit to get an idea as to where you need to cut and where you have cut, and you will gnarf a chain or 3, but it is effective especially on them trees that have made themselves a nice deep hole to settle into
works best on trees with thick bark, but not everyone gets to play with big firs and pines
There should be at least one spot that isn't all the way in the dirt though, I would start there eventually you'll have it small enough to rassill wiff the cant hook, and yeah, just use the cant hook to roll the log, cut as deep as comfortable, everywhere that needs cut, then roll it over and finish it off.
works best on trees with thick bark, but not everyone gets to play with big firs and pines
There should be at least one spot that isn't all the way in the dirt though, I would start there eventually you'll have it small enough to rassill wiff the cant hook, and yeah, just use the cant hook to roll the log, cut as deep as comfortable, everywhere that needs cut, then roll it over and finish it off.
Preferred method would be to drive a plastic wedge in to lift it up. Make all your cuts most of the way through, then put the wedge in the middle cut and lift it so you can cut it the rest of the way through. From that point, you should be able to roll the 2 smaller sections and finish the cuts.
If you're going to use a vehicle or tractor to roll it, you don't need to use a lag bolt. Just wrap a chain around it. Slide the hook under the trunk from the near side. Use a stick or something to shove the chain under if you have to. Lay the rest of the chain over the top. Take the hook and and hook it to itself to make a small loop that goes around the long end that you laid over the top of the tree. Drag the loop back down close to the ground and bring the long end back to you so that the chain is cinching down on its self and pulling up on the opposite side of the log. As you back the vehicle/tractor up, it will roll the log. I've done this with a 7' oak log that was 12' long, but I had to use a winch because I was rolling it up hill. It's worth saying here that you don't have to do this in the middle of the log if you're situation doesn't allow it. You just have to look at how the log is laying and decide whether its likely to roll or rotate when you pull on it based on where you've put the chain (you want it to roll, not rotate).
Last but not least, if all else fails and you opt to just cut through and risk dulling you're chain, then only do it once in the middle of the log. As others have said, cut most of the way through, and then use the tip to finish it. That way if you do get into the dirt, you're only doing it on one cut instead of potentially several times which would dull your chain a LOT more. Hitting dirt dulls your chain no matter how brief the contact is, but that's different than rocking a chain. The dull chain can be quickly sharpened. A rocked chain takes a lot of time and effort to fix.
it's an ash, so bark is pretty thick. good tip about the bark. i will use that for sure. stupid question as the can't hook isn't in front of me...but i guess i have to remove the "stand" in order to perform "roll" only?
meh, not necessarily, you should be able to roll it at least 1/4 turn at a time, but the stand will for sure be a hinderance, they are neato tool but i've never really had a use for the stand option, Hel I don't even know where any of my peavies went... couple of em were hand forged by me too...
Don’t need it when you have balls of steel!
Waiting for a part? Just use one of your other saws and post some pics!!
Stihl Learning
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Make sure you have an extra saw or two laying around in case you get one stuck!! lol
I mostly cut 18” firewood and even my largest 42” diameter logs can be rolled with my can’t hook a 6’ length. So I dig a shallow trench at 6’ intervals and cut through there. Then I cut 18” to about 80% through and roll them and cut up to finish my cuts.
A lot of times one of the cuts wont pinch and you can cut all the way through so you can handle rolling shorter pieces.
I can't believe how overcomplicated this has become...
Knowing the length of his truck, which is 4.216 meters. We need to know how long it would take the truck to travel its own length. Assuming the wormhole remains open for .1072 seconds, and that we knew this fact, he could divide the length of the truck by 107.2, arriving at 39.33 meters per second or 88mph. So, 88mph is the speed of his truck must reach before hitting the log to have any hope of moving it.
This stuff is maybe second nature to you guys, but for a hobbyist, this has turned out to be one of the best threads i've been a part of in my life. I can't believe all the awesome, creative and effective techniques everyone has suggested. And all in one place. Regarding using a second saw...as just a homeowner, i only have a small spare. I've been calling my dealer every couple days to ask about the part. Yesterday they said they received the part in a plastic bag marked "damaged", so they had to order another one. Ugh! Sorry to have not posted yet the outcome. By early next week at the latest. Thanks again to all.
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