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Exactly right Neil, my preferred climbing saw is dual port 660 with a 28" light bar... I find the power from a 200T a bit underwhelming - not sure how it got such a great reputation :confused:.


Back to guns though, I have always had an interest in the fine art of long range shooting with large caliber rifles. Even better if they can take out an engine block at 1000+ yards.



Easy with a .50 cal have you seen the clips of the taliban getting blown apart at 2 k's or the wall penetrating 50 cal round that cuts through the concrete wall then explodes turning humans into instant xxxx
 
And you'd more than likely get ya ass shot off by a pair of 50 cals from 3 different locations top upper and ball turrent not an easy target like you think

ha :msp_wink: twas kinda inferring that my Me109 after getting though the P51 screen without wasting ammo height and fuel and then taking on from low rear a Fort,,,, still lost... As your right the turret n ball just need aware pilot to drop nose and turn and even a couragous tail attacker is toast.

50 cal is can do in oz if yer up to sexual favors to your local plod firearm officer, joining the rare gun clubs that allow them, then paying 20+ bucks a pop, be happy with 308 just shoot it twice.
 
If you would like to watch this movie then you will get a feel for what its like to get your ass kicked but survive thanks to some dedicated people

Helicopter Wars - Vietnam Ambush FULL - YouTube

I did a bit of riding with the Helicopter 7/17th Air Cavalry man what respect i have for these guys knowing full well should the xxxx hit the fan those boys would get us out
 
If you would like to watch this movie then you will get a feel for what its like to get your ass kicked but survive thanks to some dedicated people

Helicopter Wars - Vietnam Ambush FULL - YouTube

I did a bit of riding with the Helicopter 7/17th Air Cavalry man what respect i have for these guys knowing full well should the xxxx hit the fan those boys would get us out

i just watched that and all i can say is WOW
 
Just wondering... are 50 cals legal in Oz? I wouldn't mind one for shooting ...ummm deer and stuff :rolleyes2:

Not sure about other states but in SA you've got buckley's chance of getting one registered. Even .338 Lapuas are getting cracked down on with a whole heap of applications for purchase being rejected. I'm not necessarily against any firearm being registered but in my experience the guys that seem to have a sexual attraction to military style .50 cals are the last guys that should even be licenced. My brother owns a Rem 700 Tactical in .338 Lapua and as far as I know they really started cracking down on the Lapuas after he got his registered. The SA Firearm's Branch started saying "There are no ranges in the state rated for the .338 Lapua" as an excuse to limit approvals. I actually received this email first hand and emailed it straight to the editor of the Australian Shooter magazine. It caused a bit of a stir amongst the SSAA in South Australia as the rated range excuse from the firearm's branch was utter BS.
There is another reason however as to why these calibres are getting more and more restricted though and that is simply due to the type of military ammo that can be potentially bought for them on the black market. I mean there is now .50 ammo that is armour piercing, incendiary, and HE all in one projectile that has the potential to even take out a tank quite effectively. This ammo is all available in match grade too and is being used mainly by SAS snipers in Afghaniland, Iraq etc. They were originally using delinked .50BMG FMJ ammo but it wasn't accurate enough. If I remember correctly the Aussie SAS and sniper teams in Afghaniland after 9/11 ended up buying about 15,000 match grade .50 AP/INC/HE rounds from the US military for their .50 sniper rifles. They cost around USD$37 a shot. I've seen what these things can do to about 2" steel plate and it's awesome.
If some nutjob bought a .50 cal Barrett or something and a heap of these rounds he'd nearly be untouchable unless someone called in the air force or a Javelin rocket.

And you'd more than likely get ya ass shot off by a pair of 50 cals from 3 different locations top upper and ball turrent not an easy target like you think

Actually Bob the odds were heavily in favour of the ME109 in a combat situation vs. a bomber, especially the rear tail gunner whose average life expectancy in most combat scenarios was measured in minutes. A lone bomber was easy pickings. That's one of the reasons why they travelled in formations as they had most angles covered with half a dozen (or more) guns and any stragglers were generally shot down easily.
 
B17's

Hi everybody.

My favourite subject....history.

The B17's flew in the "Combat Box" formation, where each aircraft flew in formation with other aircraft so that their machine guns had overlapping fields of fire. The USAAF also subscribed to the theory of daylight bombing, and continued this even when the RAF had given up and switched to night raids. The bombers originally flew into occupied France and Germany unescorted, as no fighters with the range existed to accompany the B17's across the Third Reich. Losses were high, in 1942-43 chances of completing a tour of 30 missions were poor.

As an aircraft type the B17's absorbed battle damage better than the B24's. A B17 would fly on three engines, and under certain circumstances 2 engines, but a B24 Liberator would not fly on 3 engines. It took 20 - 25 hits from a 20mm cannon to bring down a B17.

The Messerschmitts started attacking the formations from the rear, but with the hail of lead coming at them tactics were soon changed, the fighters attacked from head on. The B17's were then up gunned, with a chin turret and cheek guns in the nose.

I count myself lucky that I wasnt born in a time where I ended up in a B17, and that if I did I was too tall to be a ball gunner (the bloke underneath) Climbing into one of those things, knowing that you may not come back, took some courage.

Graham
 
Not sure about other states but in SA you've got buckley's chance of getting one registered. Even .338 Lapuas are getting cracked down on with a whole heap of applications for purchase being rejected. I'm not necessarily against any firearm being registered but in my experience the guys that seem to have a sexual attraction to military style .50 cals are the last guys that should even be licenced. My brother owns a Rem 700 Tactical in .338 Lapua and as far as I know they really started cracking down on the Lapuas after he got his registered. The SA Firearm's Branch started saying "There are no ranges in the state rated for the .338 Lapua" as an excuse to limit approvals. I actually received this email first hand and emailed it straight to the editor of the Australian Shooter magazine. It caused a bit of a stir amongst the SSAA in South Australia as the rated range excuse from the firearm's branch was utter BS.
There is another reason however as to why these calibres are getting more and more restricted though and that is simply due to the type of military ammo that can be potentially bought for them on the black market. I mean there is now .50 ammo that is armour piercing, incendiary, and HE all in one projectile that has the potential to even take out a tank quite effectively. This ammo is all available in match grade too and is being used mainly by SAS snipers in Afghaniland, Iraq etc. They were originally using delinked .50BMG FMJ ammo but it wasn't accurate enough. If I remember correctly the Aussie SAS and sniper teams in Afghaniland after 9/11 ended up buying about 15,000 match grade .50 AP/INC/HE rounds from the US military for their .50 sniper rifles. They cost around USD$37 a shot. I've seen what these things can do to about 2" steel plate and it's awesome.
If some nutjob bought a .50 cal Barrett or something and a heap of these rounds he'd nearly be untouchable unless someone called in the air force or a Javelin rocket.

Well that is sad news... but thanks for clearing things up Matt. Looks like I will have to get a holiday house in the US and export saws to pay for my hobby :msp_wink:
 
Hi everybody.

My favourite subject....history.

The B17's flew in the "Combat Box" formation, where each aircraft flew in formation with other aircraft so that their machine guns had overlapping fields of fire. The USAAF also subscribed to the theory of daylight bombing, and continued this even when the RAF had given up and switched to night raids. The bombers originally flew into occupied France and Germany unescorted, as no fighters with the range existed to accompany the B17's across the Third Reich. Losses were high, in 1942-43 chances of completing a tour of 30 missions were poor.

As an aircraft type the B17's absorbed battle damage better than the B24's. A B17 would fly on three engines, and under certain circumstances 2 engines, but a B24 Liberator would not fly on 3 engines. It took 20 - 25 hits from a 20mm cannon to bring down a B17.

The Messerschmitts started attacking the formations from the rear, but with the hail of lead coming at them tactics were soon changed, the fighters attacked from head on. The B17's were then up gunned, with a chin turret and cheek guns in the nose.

I count myself lucky that I wasnt born in a time where I ended up in a B17, and that if I did I was too tall to be a ball gunner (the bloke underneath) Climbing into one of those things, knowing that you may not come back, took some courage.

Graham

Graham

A lot of my mates served as door gunners on the Huey they were seconded to 9 Sqn for a 6 month attatchment and a few are no longer with us or returned from Vietnam sitting as a door gunner in a Huey is no safe place on an aircraft if you watched the movie notice they didnt show the Australian Bushranger version with mini guns attached and further forward on the airframe Brian Dirou pioneered this setup so the door gunners didn't suffer the blast from the mini guns and had better fields of fire the Aussie Bushranger ended up an awesome weapon i rode on some of them just as a bit of baggage and in awe.

My job with 2 Sqn was as a radio operator in the section carrying the PRC-25 radio and i have added some pics of various submachine guns remember Australia had no assault rifles but for night ambushes with engagement ranges of less than 25 yards they were ideal

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Heres a Kar 15 i put a few rounds through

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And an Israelie Sub Machine gun dont know or can remember how the ####ens we scored this one

thepom.jpg


Bob.
 
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This is probably old hat around here, but I've only just seen it.

The great man in action, although I reckon he's lucky it's just Stihl.
If it was a Husky or a Dolmak, even Chuck may have copped a scratch or nick :monkey:

[video=youtube;fdwC4vhc594]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdwC4vhc594&feature=related[/video]
 
This is probably old hat around here, but I've only just seen it.

The great man in action, although I reckon he's lucky it's just Stihl.
If it was a Husky or a Dolmak, even Chuck may have copped a scratch or nick :monkey:

[video=youtube;fdwC4vhc594]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdwC4vhc594&feature=related[/video]


I remember that video when it came out, it was far fetched to say the least. The bit where the villian logger boss says to the little kid to hit him and chuck steps out and crack, the boss gets up off the ground in diss beleif a young kid could hit so hard.
good for the chuck fans
 

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