3/8 RS has the same kurf as 404 RM give or take a bees d
Hope you had a good Chrissy mate. Glad you made it to SA and hope you tried some nice Coonawarra wine while you were down at Penola? Should have been nice weather down there.
matt now thats a cute vid
The Tassie fallers were using .404" full chisel according to the Stihl shop at Huonville. I know Neil was running square when falling but can't remember if it was 3/8" or .404".
That Bee's d*ck depends on how well hung the bee was
The old chain argument, which is better and cuts the longest.
My early days in log falling i ran what everybody else was running, oregon 404 in a semi chisel and sometimes super chisel, i had no idea what was best, all i remember log falling was bloody hard work back then. When i got my wings and was allowed to fall by myself (became acredited and given aproval by my employer) i started out with a new 2100 husky (bought by my father) i made enough to pay that one off and later in the year bought another new one. This is how started out and had to earn my place in our industry, years went by and the saws and chains got better. I bought and used a stihl 076 then 084's when they came onto the scene. The 084's ran oregon 27A skip in 404, a semi chisel round filed, this chain was the best so far for rough barked timber like stringies, red mahogony ect. My first husky 394 was running 3/8 superchisel, was a top little saw except till i had to fall a red mahogony, my boss was looking into a new chain design untested in australia, it was made by oregon and is called CJX, it was a 063 guage 3/8 chain with a 404 square ground cutter (designed by Kent Huntington USA). This chain totaly changed the way we went about log falling, it had to be seen in thick bark to be beleived.
It took me 12 months of f#cking chains to master square fileing, but it was worth it, red mahogony, white mahogony, black butt all stringies cut very easily useing this chain. The down side to it was it didn,t like sand or dirt under the bark which was a problem. We had another tree called White Top Box or steel bark, it has a greeny bark and is extremely thick at the butt, the old timers used to ringbark it to fall and we did also because chain would not cut through it without being totaly pinched. Oregon 27A will cut it new until its 1st sharpen then useless, but CJX run through it just the same as a tallow wood. When we got into patches of brush box and tallow wood, bluegum or turpentine round gullies, we just run old chains and round filed them as those logs didn't need to have square filed chains to cut.
When i got to fall in the big wood and steep country, i already had the skills in square fileing, big saws and long bars which made the job bearable and then become an awsome job.
I was very lucky to be taught by men who were the best in this game and they gave me the opertunity to learn their skills nessessary to survive in this industry.
One thing i have learned in old growth logging in wilderness areas (mostly untouched), if a faller or dozer operator struggles in the job in normal hilly bush, those men will not last long in old growth, its simply a different world.
I knew you'd come out and fill us in Neil. Interesting information - I can't believe you know all of this stuff yet have never felled a tree Out of interest was Oregon the only chain you ran or is it because of Oregon's close association with Husky?
Maybe i read a lot Matt,,,,, smartass. :msp_tongue:
I just happen to still have a full roll of CJX here, this roll being 058 guage
Bummed that you only have it in .058" or I'd try to poach a loop
done,,, how many drives, i'd have 063 up at work
Hey if you have 105DL that'd be great. I'll fix you up though, no freebies
no freebies, so true, but i think the ball may be in my court at the moment so i won't miss a loop.
which one 058 or 063
ausneil story reminded me of a day out early 80ies with fallers in Vic high country I was a 20 sumthin know all who had dropped trees in back yards for 2 or 3 years i's reckon i was pretty handy with a saw till I got a day with a real felling crew. Amazing was just the drive up to coup in a logging rig a White conventioal cab and the track was not sized for it but we still went on wheels hanging over the sides all the way.
At coup i was overwhellemed by the dangers rolling logs dozers chains n wire snatch the trees being felled were huge with limbs bigger than any tree i had dropped. The ground was always steep rough a firm footing not to be found and covered with bull ants n air with bush March flies.
Loaded up back to mill & had lunch with the mill team and I noticed not one did not have a bit missing, be it fingers arm foot all had been lost to machines n blades. I learn't heaps that day and learn't to stay safe in suburban yards spankin the little ones.
Sometimes i miss the big wood, but its dangerouse and hard work and not everyone makes the big money. I have also been to several funerals, work mates who have been caught and payed the price.
The last one a few years back, his 12 year old son carried out a worn stihl helmet in front of the coffin, that hurt and struck home the risk we all take in our job.
was just thinking, regarding falling time, i think i spent more time on 3120's than all the other saws put together. Set up with our standard 36'' oregon bar, 8 tooth rim and CJX square chain.
The 394's set up with same chain but 30'' bars done a bloody lot also.
the stihl boys in our area loved the 088 and 066, set up useing same bars and chains as us.
think someone got the saw between the legs starting method a little backwards...
gotta think smart always being ahead of your own job at task, while looking out for your mates with the 3rd eye, but always at the thinking mans pace in the timber/Farm industry & RFS. worked a lot of Hardwood dumps, felled for a few years in the pines, done a lot of private felling work around the SE for my own small chainsaw operating Business (word of mouth stuff) as well as on the farm & In RFS. RAFT crews ...been in the RFS for over 10 years seen many great men break down at the terror of what a out of control Bushfire can really do, many many suffer when it hits hard, was down the kings lake fires (black Saturday) that was like a Mars landing with all the locals laying around charcoaled, everything was melted it was like driving into hell, if your ever seen 100m flames you'll understand the awesome power ( Black Saturday bushfires unleashed the equivalent of 1500 Hiroshima atomic bombs on Victoria ... Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian... ) ...always hard for me cause my oldman is Senior Deputy Captain, and i feel the need to always be there in case i can save his life as well as my own.
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