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You have a point there...many actually. The thing is this business consumes a guy leaving little time or energy for anything else. I am too stubborn to let someone else do the work for me and not willing to get set up where I could hire people and treat them properly. I am not one to send guys out to break their asses ( and everything else) while I count the proceeds.

Like I said , there are many reasons why I feel its time. One being statistics... which I would rather not be.

You know, money was never really a motivator for me, I'm just not built that way. I am not a businessman by any stretch. I am getting bored of saying the same stuff over and over to clients. The thrill is gone... well not entirely, the thought of the climb still warms my cockles, the challenge of chasing deadwood through a big stick brings on a sense of security, the feel of a fresh chain on 20 gets me jittery, counting wood chips as they fly off the 44 is bewildering, getting my chipper where no man has gone before is fun , the fact that top rate is still what is was 10 years ago? Well now I am getting pissed off. Why should the slack come out of my ass?
I am also at the point where my business needs to grow or die and I am not that interested. I can still pick up climbing work, its kinda tough though considering i know and see way to ####ing much.

Change is the only real constant.

P.S. that knee surgery didn't go so well.

You go and do what you feel you have to do... Just as long as you stick around here. With out you, who would bring the Pink Floyd feeling to the forum.
 
Really dude really ???? I mean really ???? Anyway I think you have your reasons and I am sure you are adult enough to make the best decision for yourself But I hope that you stay here ... I don't know what being hurt to the point where a career change is necessary , but you always have a open door here if you ever wanna let the devil out and tear up a few trees with me , and if the truck is for sale it will go to a good home here just let me know ...
 
You have a point there...many actually. The thing is this business consumes a guy leaving little time or energy for anything else. I am too stubborn to let someone else do the work for me and not willing to get set up where I could hire people and treat them properly. I am not one to send guys out to break their asses ( and everything else) while I count the proceeds.

Like I said , there are many reasons why I feel its time. One being statistics... which I would rather not be.

You know, money was never really a motivator for me, I'm just not built that way. I am not a businessman by any stretch. I am getting bored of saying the same stuff over and over to clients. The thrill is gone... well not entirely, the thought of the climb still warms my cockles, the challenge of chasing deadwood through a big stick brings on a sense of security, the feel of a fresh chain on 20 gets me jittery, counting wood chips as they fly off the 44 is bewildering, getting my chipper where no man has gone before is fun , the fact that top rate is still what is was 10 years ago? Well now I am getting pissed off. Why should the slack come out of my ass?
I am also at the point where my business needs to grow or die and I am not that interested. I can still pick up climbing work, its kinda tough though considering i know and see way to ####ing much.

Change is the only real constant.

P.S. that knee surgery didn't go so well.


Sorry to hear that Ben. Best of luck with wherever you go and whatever you do next. Hope you stick around the forums though. You're one of the few I still look up to around here. Cheers, bud.
 
Danno, I hear ya on that top rate crap & its one of the reasons I am making a transition myself, I to had knee surgery many years ago & the ticker worked on last may............this biz will beat ya up & having to deal with idiots sucks! I wish you well & hope you stay in the forum talk!




LXT................
 
Danno, I hear ya on that top rate crap & its one of the reasons I am making a transition myself, I to had knee surgery many years ago & the ticker worked on last may............this biz will beat ya up & having to deal with idiots sucks! I wish you well & hope you stay in the forum talk!




LXT................

Of all people it YOU that needs to take a breath and calm down bubbers.:msp_wink:
 
Sorry to hear that Ben. Best of luck with wherever you go and whatever you do next. Hope you stick around the forums though. You're one of the few I still look up to around here. Cheers, bud.

Nothing to be sorry bout bro. You know I will always be gettin some wrangling in no matter what. People keep asking what climbing/rigging gear I am selling. ####, if I got rid of that stuff what would I sleep with?


One of the reasons I am looking to sell my bigger stuff is that its all kept right here at my house... AND MY LITTLE OLE WIFY DON'T LIKE IT ONE DAM BIT!
Like I said, I am not interested in going deeper into this. You know i was working with this guy the other day, he was talking about about this Japanese guy who knows so much about trees it would take a million dollars an hour for him to prune those zelkovas. My first thought was " Well where the #### is he then?"
I don't want to be that guy... for some strange reason, but there are other things I want to try. And I have to tell you Blakes, I am a little envious of you three retards up there. No one I know wants to get together with all heart and soul and give it go like you guys. I had some people who thought they wanted to but after a couple hours they changed their minds.
Of course if I can't what I want for the chipper then I'm keeping it.
 
even if you do decide to peruse another career it might be smart to keep enough equipment so you could do a tree on the weekend every once and a while along side with another job the extra cash couldn't hurt. like other said sell the dingo get some cash and keep the chipper and something to chip into. then you can just do it when you want to once you have another source of income.
 
There is one thing I could never blame ANYBODY for and that is getting the hell out of this business.

The word ' business' has a way of ruining things huh? Not to complain, I knew the nature and I knew I could endure if I had to but i don't and i don't want to. The total cost of staying with this doesn't seem to make sense. It never really did. The only slave I am willing to drive is myself. I don't wanna end up like X... or worse... TreeCo! Bubbers, I luv ya.
I have kinda always did what I wanted, its not that easy no its not. Maybe I will get into insurance brokerage!!!!!:wink2:
I am pretty sure if I got 20k for that chipper I could make it pay my way into a engineering/project mananger position for a solar company.
 
The word ' business' has a way of ruining things huh? Not to complain, I knew the nature and I knew I could endure if I had to but i don't and i don't want to. The total cost of staying with this doesn't seem to make sense. It never really did. The only slave I am willing to drive is myself. I don't wanna end up like X... or worse... TreeCo! Bubbers, I luv ya.
I have kinda always did what I wanted, its not that easy no its not. Maybe I will get into insurance brokerage!!!!!:wink2:
I am pretty sure if I got 20k for that chipper I could make it pay my way into a engineering/project mananger position for a solar company.

I'm guessing 14k for the chipper, tops. How many hours? (You see what I'm saying, very annoying, selling your life off.. especially to some gay lawn jockey!!) :)
 
The word ' business' has a way of ruining things huh? Not to complain, I knew the nature and I knew I could endure if I had to but i don't and i don't want to. The total cost of staying with this doesn't seem to make sense. It never really did. The only slave I am willing to drive is myself. I don't wanna end up like X... or worse... TreeCo! Bubbers, I luv ya.
I have kinda always did what I wanted, its not that easy no its not. Maybe I will get into insurance brokerage!!!!!:wink2:
I am pretty sure if I got 20k for that chipper I could make it pay my way into a engineering/project mananger position for a solar company.

Mainly I'm just burned out on the way things have became in this "business". You work with somebody on a quote and they want to verify your liability and comp. Next, they need to verify you are a certified arborist. Then, they hire some SOB that doesn't have insurance on the the old POS truck his dumbass rolled up there in, much less anything else. Then down here there is the illegal alien problem which get worse every freaking year. Worse and worse and it has become obvious the Gov. is never going to do anything about it. If you do it right, and I always have, just the paperwork consumes a lot of time and pays zero. And if that's not enough you have all the guys that your fraking taxes pay their salary at their public job who decide they are going to be part time tree guys.
 
I'm guessing 14k for the chipper, tops. How many hours? (You see what I'm saying, very annoying, selling your life off.. especially to some gay lawn jockey!!) :)

Yer probably right and in that case I will keep it but its definatley not my life. I mean i wish it was that simple... but its not.
 
God forbid you end up like me!



Best of luck in whatever it is you do.

You'd look cute in a suit and tie.

Oh I do I do, that is not lie... cept I ripped it off and threw it out the window then i punched the windsheild out of the rental car I was driving. Between the suit ,the AC not working on the jammed up freeway and my wife telling me I need a haircut I needed to do something. I recently was talked into joining Facebook by my friends. BIG MISTAKE! Of course all my old girlfriends are on there (wife's all pissed) they are saying I should have never cut my hair so I took my shirt off, posted the pic and am farmin it back out ( wife's all pissed). I gotta say them old girlfriends sure plumped up over the years sheesh! I haven't been on FB in awhile but whatever I do there ain't gonna be no suit and tie involved, that would be an emminant front.

P.S. Wife's been pissed for 15 years, before that she was mildy agitated, now she's got vengeance in her eyes.
 
I'm guessing 14k for the chipper, tops. How many hours? (You see what I'm saying, very annoying, selling your life off.. especially to some gay lawn jockey!!) :)

I bought it new June 07, it now is just shy of 200 hours. If i ever got a tatoo it would be off the guy on the chipper decal. You know the guy, the guy with one hand on the clutch lever , the other waving the dollar bills coming out of the exhaust and a crazed lunatic's grin? Where to put it is the question.
 
I bought it new June 07, it now is just shy of 200 hours. If i ever got a tatoo it would be off the guy on the chipper decal. You know the guy, the guy with one hand on the clutch lever , the other waving the dollar bills coming out of the exhaust and a crazed lunatic's grin? Where to put it is the question.

I am on my second (used) bandit, and I always loved that guy.. I always wanted to kill him too, but you know what I mean! Lol.
 
I am on my second (used) bandit, and I always loved that guy.. I always wanted to kill him too, but you know what I mean! Lol.

If one were to get a tattoo that would be a good one huh? I mean I know its a little far fetched but you don't have to read english to get the point.
I sure was impressed the first time I saw him.
 
You have a point there...many actually. The thing is this business consumes a guy leaving little time or energy for anything else. I am too stubborn to let someone else do the work for me and not willing to get set up where I could hire people and treat them properly. I am not one to send guys out to break their asses ( and everything else) while I count the proceeds.

Like I said , there are many reasons why I feel its time. One being statistics... which I would rather not be.

You know, money was never really a motivator for me, I'm just not built that way. I am not a businessman by any stretch. I am getting bored of saying the same stuff over and over to clients. The thrill is gone... well not entirely, the thought of the climb still warms my cockles, the challenge of chasing deadwood through a big stick brings on a sense of security, the feel of a fresh chain on 20 gets me jittery, counting wood chips as they fly off the 44 is bewildering, getting my chipper where no man has gone before is fun , the fact that top rate is still what is was 10 years ago? Well now I am getting pissed off. Why should the slack come out of my ass?
I am also at the point where my business needs to grow or die and I am not that interested. I can still pick up climbing work, its kinda tough though considering i know and see way to ####ing much.

Change is the only real constant.

P.S. that knee surgery didn't go so well.

I wish this post was around when I first got here. I have lost track of all the paper chasing d-bags, pretending to be better then me because the were self- employed. Running a biz isn't for everyone nor should it be. Someguys, myself included are better off going to work at seven and coming home at three. For the past five years I have been a employee, my only strees has been trying to get to sleep by midnight.
Recentlly I took over a close friends company while he travels the world. Now my days begin at six am and end at ten pm. Im making in a day what I use to make in a week, but I haven't drank more then a six pack in the past week , a damn shame.
Whatever you do I wish you luck, running a small tree biz is a hell of a alot of work, almost to much for me. My friend and I are talking about a partnership even knowing we may end up hating eachother. At least he can travell and I can get back to my drinking and pulling trim.
 
If one were to get a tattoo that would be a good one huh? I mean I know its a little far fetched but you don't have to read english to get the point.
I sure was impressed the first time I saw him.

We call him...... Clutchmaster

Worked with the real mccoy on my stint of line clearance, watched him burn up the clutch on a Bandit 250. Watching the smoke roll out was impressive.

That would be a perfect tat.... right cheek:msp_scared:
 
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