treeslayer2003
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oly i think he said the opposite..........so your saying,,no one east of the rockies,,could handle the "tough" jobs you claim to do???? yeah,right........
oly i think he said the opposite..........so your saying,,no one east of the rockies,,could handle the "tough" jobs you claim to do???? yeah,right........
what? it goes both ways around here. there is mighty good folks all over this forum.......its just that some have blinders on.
Yes there are. Hence the need for a few to drop the logger vs firewood cutter and west coast vs the world drama.what? it goes both ways around here. there is mighty good folks all over this forum.......its just that some have blinders on.
I agree. I think people can always learn from others if they can approach things with an open mind. When minds close and accusations flow, then it's time to take a step back.i agree, if you follow my posts you will see i have tried. some on the west do as well. we all have to try, some times it just takes a little reasoning to cool off. i as east coast faller have benefited greatly from conversations with our western friends. i bet i'm not the only one. i have been on the wood forums, some of them seem like they resent a logger there and some welcome us. however, if we see bad falling advise, we just can't help but say some thing......there is a very good reason for that, we all know of falling related injury or death.
Keep trying to drive that wedge Slowp. You have been one of the major contributors to the problem I referenced.99's seem to be turning this into a borg forum.
Just follow this example. I should have reported this in our new kumbaya age. And yes, there is a wall separating the forums. One is Forestry and Logging, and the other is woodcutting. There is a difference. Lawnmowers are not acceptable logging equipment. Farm tractors flip over. Mills don't buy 2 foot chunks of wood. Please enlighten us on how both are the same.
Here is an example which should have been cited in the now locked conversation. I'm sure I can find more. I have more time than the guys like Blitzer who are out actually professionally logging, and coming home tired, with things to do and then get up and repeat it the next day. Speaking of "childishness" read this.
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/ignore-list.273570/
Yes there are. Hence the need for a few to drop the logger vs firewood cutter and west coast vs the world drama.
Yep. The guy who is cutting my family tree farm spends all of breakup doing firewood. And one of the brothers from probably the biggest logging family in my area is also the biggest firewood seller.hey svk, wanna hear the really silly part? most loggers make and use fire wood lol.
I'm all about letting someone know in no uncertain terms if they are about to do something that could put anyone in harms way.Just so's you know most times it feels like firewood vs loggers, and the world vs the west coast, all depends on who's side your on.
The folks that listen tend to come around to physics those that don't start name calling and whining in general... Most folks are too stubborn too listen to facts, and go off what their ego or friends tell them... it can cause problems. By and large Loggers and those involved in forestry don't have time for ego's or stubborness when it comes to safety (we get stubborn on finishing an impossible job), and we tend to call people out on dumb **** before someone gets killed, most times its taken the wrong way, because of said ego...
And yeah I burn wood too, and have for 3 decades, and wrench on all my own saws (unless I don't have time then I pay for it which is more and more often)
Yes there are. Hence the need for a few to drop the logger vs firewood cutter and west coast vs the world drama.
We don't mind non loggers showing up and asking questions. We'll help if we can. But when they show up, ask a question and then argue with the advice they're given we do tend to get a little riled.I'm all about letting someone know in no uncertain terms if they are about to do something that could put anyone in harms way.
At the same point if a weekend firewood cutter wants to hang out with the big boys to maybe learn a few things, a few need to check their attitudes and drop the condescending crap like "99'ers" or a multitude of other terms to meant to belittle a noob. I tell you what: I've learned that if you are the most inexperienced person in a room then you need to shut up and listen. I can't tell you the hundreds of hours I spent listening to dad, grandpa, uncles, and older friends talk about life experiences over a round of drinks or coffee. Same thing goes for a forum.
any one really seeking advice will not be turned away.I'm all about letting someone know in no uncertain terms if they are about to do something that could put anyone in harms way.
At the same point if a weekend firewood cutter wants to hang out with the big boys to maybe learn a few things, a few need to check their attitudes and drop the condescending crap like "99'ers" or a multitude of other terms to meant to belittle a noob. I tell you what: I've learned that if you are the most inexperienced person in a room then you need to shut up and listen. I can't tell you the hundreds of hours I spent listening to dad, grandpa, uncles, and older friends talk about life experiences over a round of drinks or coffee. Same thing goes for a forum.
Thanks Bob!You'd get along in the woods out here okay. So would Bitz and a couple of others who live east of the Rockies. Especially HuskStihl. I have 100% confidence that I could drop that guy into any cow-faced, box canyon, heli-access nightmare with only his trusty 394, his wits, his true grit, and his undeniably impressive falling knowledge to see him through.
There will always be those types of folks. It's human nature.We don't mind non loggers showing up and asking questions. We'll help if we can. But when they show up, ask a question and then argue with the advice they're given we do tend to get a little riled.
A lot of times they're not really asking for advice anyway, they're asking us to validate some goofy and terribly unsafe idea that they've come up with. When we don't they get upset. Tough.
See the problem?