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The Sexy Dawg Thread (show your felling/bucking spikes!)
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WadePatton
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well i suppose no one went and looked at the other pics of the saw referenced here in the op.
so here is a pic of that saw again--with the factory dogs. and they look pathetic with that particular bar. downright pathetic.
me, i'm no feller, but i any time the saw isn't being pulled straight down by gravity-good dogs give a pivot. i got used to the 7900 dogs and now miss that gription on my little sheet saws. gointer fix dat...
so here is a pic of that saw again--with the factory dogs. and they look pathetic with that particular bar. downright pathetic.
me, i'm no feller, but i any time the saw isn't being pulled straight down by gravity-good dogs give a pivot. i got used to the 7900 dogs and now miss that gription on my little sheet saws. gointer fix dat...
bitzer
******** Timber Expert
Yep the lowest point should stick out the farthest, those dampfhammers don't. Defeats the purpose.
Ljute
Free Teak
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the westspartan
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Sweet saw pic, but get it dirty!
The poor boy always catches s*** for showing shiny saw pics. They are from when the saw was new
Notice the green in the woods. It is all brown and white there now! He has run it pretty hard since he bought it. Cut him some slack.
mowoodchopper
Polar Bear
You guys and your analyzing dogs! LMAO The lowest point should stick out the longest and work like a hook ! Whatever, most of the dogs I see are even and no matter how they are made they have all worked fine. Those dogs on the dolmar were a bad set of dogs, and Im sure they work fine. Some of you guys should go work for the current government , you would fit right in , making up bs to explain your basakwards way of looking at every thing! LOL
Ljute
Free Teak
The poor boy always catches s*** for showing shiny saw pics. They are from when the saw was new
Haha, OK. Will you defend me when I post pics of my shiny new unused 372xpw? :hmm3grin2orange:
se you are speaking from emotion, im speaking from experience. If dogs arent made right,(ive made em) they areeent much more than a big pita...
mowoodchopper
Polar Bear
Your close! Let me rephrase that for you, I'm speaking from my yrs of gathering knowledge and running saws, your speaking from your sphincter as usual ! LOL
Are the factory dogs specially heat treated?
I was thinking of making a set from mild steel plate but I am thinking that they can bend up without some sort of treating to the metal.
For the people that have made dogs - what material have you had good sucess with?
I was thinking of making a set from mild steel plate but I am thinking that they can bend up without some sort of treating to the metal.
For the people that have made dogs - what material have you had good sucess with?
the westspartan
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You could use a couple of old large circular saw blades to cut the dogs out from. I have made knives out of these and have found them to take well to various heat treating processes. Although I have not tried making my own dogs out of them.
If you have access to 301 half hard or full hard CRS should work or heat treated 17-7ph about as tough as it gets hard to work with when heat treated though.
the westspartan
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He is right about the fact that they should act like a hook that you are digging into the log. Although he could use to turn down that "look at me I'm a big time PNW logger" routine a little.
Good idea! I do have a few oldies that my Grandpa gave me with his old table saw.
I guess it could be a challenge to cut them out of hardened steel. What would you recommend to use as a cutting tool? I was going to use a jig saw with a metal blade but that may not go so well in hard steel.
fiber cut off wheel in a die grinder.
the westspartan
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If you have access to a plasma cutter then that is the way to go. Rough it out with the PC and then clean it up with abrasives(die grinder, spindle sander, belt sander, etc.) or whatever you have. If no plasma cutter, the jigsaw might work if you use a very fine toothed blade and you may go though a few of them
I am not sure how hard a circular saw blade is when it is in use. I just know they have a fairly high carbon content and that is what gives them their heat "treatability". I guess if they are real hard you could try annealing them before you cut them and then harden and temper them after. Good luck and post your results!
WadePatton
ArboristSite Guru
24 tpi if you're going with the hacksaw--get the highest priced blade you can find. and be patient.
if the material is still too hard _and_ you have a torch, heat it red and let it cool slowly, this will anneal the metal. then you can re-harden the tips when done if necessary.
i have some stainless plate from the junkyard...and if it turns out to be too thin, i'll double it or "spine" the points. of course mine will be short for little saws--so that makes rigidity less of an issue.
if the material is still too hard _and_ you have a torch, heat it red and let it cool slowly, this will anneal the metal. then you can re-harden the tips when done if necessary.
i have some stainless plate from the junkyard...and if it turns out to be too thin, i'll double it or "spine" the points. of course mine will be short for little saws--so that makes rigidity less of an issue.
Thanks alot for the help.
The spikes are for my 064 project so they will have to be big. I am starting to really get going on putting the saw back together but a few nights ago I discovered that the bearings plastic retaining rings are beginning to get brittle as the clutch side cracked when I tried to put it back together. Well looks like I will have to throw down another $100 for the saw.
So it may be a little while before I get this one finished...
The spikes are for my 064 project so they will have to be big. I am starting to really get going on putting the saw back together but a few nights ago I discovered that the bearings plastic retaining rings are beginning to get brittle as the clutch side cracked when I tried to put it back together. Well looks like I will have to throw down another $100 for the saw.
So it may be a little while before I get this one finished...
No, im speaking from making about 5 sets for my 795, i tried 5 different designes, and most of them where failures. . .
