The Whining Thread

[mile9socounty]

Is there a connecting thread in these failures? What's the weak link, in your opinion? Curious because I may be forced to buy a few in the next year or two.

Not the foggiest of ideas. The bosses tried blaming it on the fuel we use. We just got a new shipment of 92 Non E 3 weeks ago. So its still fresh. We're using Stihl Syn mixed at 50:1. All of them were toasted on the Exh side. 3 of the 5 have more than 2000hrs on it without a tune job or anykind of bearings, seals or rings put in it. The two newer ones? Not a clue. Pour craftsman ship? I like most Stihl designs, but have a burning hate for the 362's.

 

[madhatte]

Weird. Keep us posted -- if you figure anything else out, we'll know what not to do. I know I've gotten good service from all of the last-gen Stihls, but haven't got any hours at all on current ones. Got 2 036's and 5 361's next to rotate out, so I'm especially interested in knowing end-of-life behavior on the 362's. The other thing that worries me about 362's is that I can't mod anything on account of Gov't liability, so it has to work adequately out-of-box. Before anybody says "Just buy a Husky", understand that I've got about 40 engines in the shop, all Stihl, and a large inventory of parts. Ain't switching brands now because it's just not good sense.

Oh, and as for fuel, I can't get the bosses to care about it at all. We are SUPPOSED to use the crap 87 E10 from an aboveground tank, and most folks do, but I buy my own AT MY OWN EXPENSE because I refuse to run crap gas in a saw. I run 92 non-E and Stihl Ultra at 50:1 only.

 

[slowp]

I think I'll do a prewhine.

I know it is December, and it is 49 degrees out, and it probably IS just a sucker hole, but I think I'll soon leash up the dogs--yes, dogs is plural, and go out for a walk wearing shorts. My legs will probably freeze.

The Used Dog is dogsitting a little mini-schnauzer who has to wear a coat when the weather is bad. Here is the Kitty dog's picture.

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[2dogs]

Cooked two saws yesterday. Both of them were 362's. One was bought last spring and the other one had only 22hrs on it. That will make 5 of them damned things that have died since Oct.

We knocked out a crank on one MS362 in maybe 3 weeks. The rest have been OK.

 

[2dogs]

Been working a couple of fun little projects. On the first on I am cutting eucalytus suckers looking for two that are exactly 3.5" on the big end and 1.5" on the small end by 16' long. These are to replace two outriggers on an old fishing boat on display at the City wharf. The only problems are finding these two matching trees and having to pay for parking on the wharf. Oh and the eucs grow in poison oak.

The other is preparing for next week when we are going to break up two log jams on the river. I think we will drive the skidder through town and then down into the river channel.We shall see.
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[hammerlogging]

Been working a couple of fun little projects. On the first on I am cutting eucalytus suckers looking for two that are exactly 3.5" on the big end and 1.5" on the small end by 16' long. These are to replace two outriggers on an old fishing boat on display at the City wharf. The only problems are finding these two matching trees and having to pay for parking on the wharf. Oh and the eucs grow in poison oak.

The other is preparing for next week when we are going to break up two log jams on the river. I think we will drive the skidder through town and then down into the river channel.We shall see.
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AWESOME projects might as well make a parade out of it.

 

[mile9socounty]

Weird. Keep us posted -- if you figure anything else out, we'll know what not to do. I know I've gotten good service from all of the last-gen Stihls, but haven't got any hours at all on current ones. Got 2 036's and 5 361's next to rotate out, so I'm especially interested in knowing end-of-life behavior on the 362's. The other thing that worries me about 362's is that I can't mod anything on account of Gov't liability, so it has to work adequately out-of-box. Before anybody says "Just buy a Husky", understand that I've got about 40 engines in the shop, all Stihl, and a large inventory of parts. Ain't switching brands now because it's just not good sense.

Oh, and as for fuel, I can't get the bosses to care about it at all. We are SUPPOSED to use the crap 87 E10 from an aboveground tank, and most folks do, but I buy my own AT MY OWN EXPENSE because I refuse to run crap gas in a saw. I run 92 non-E and Stihl Ultra at 50:1 only.

We use to have a large stock on 361's. Great saw for what we are doing. The pull a 28" B&C just fine. The guy that sits in the arm chair all day thought it would be good to sell them to get new saws, the 362's. So the company sold off, if I recall, 16 of them all at the same time. 150$ for a saw that has 3000, 4000+ hours on them. Not a bad turn around. The 1st batch of 62's were nice to start off with. High winding little sob's. They worked great to gunning and running. Job tempo changed. They didnt work so well, bogged down and were slow once we started clearing White Oak and Madrone patches. Im not just talking about little stuff either. After a while they started to loose there top end rmps. Okay, we can still milk them along. Summer hits, saws dont get used much due to lack of fires and they sit. Started our Co-op season and they started dying.

We knocked out a crank on one MS362 in maybe 3 weeks. The rest have been OK.

We've had that happen to one saw. Well actually it blew up, got rebuilt, then knocked off the end of the crank on the clutch side.

 

[slowp]

According to the 5 gallon bucket, we've had about 4 or 5 inches of rain since Monday or Tuesday when I emptied it out. I've restarted it today.

 

[RandyMac]

49 degress, 40 watt sunshine

 

[Gologit]

According to the 5 gallon bucket, we've had about 4 or 5 inches of rain since Monday or Tuesday when I emptied it out. I've restarted it today.

Don't forget to factor in the Used Dog's additions.

 

[bigbadbob]

According to the 5 gallon bucket, we've had about 4 or 5 inches of rain since Monday or Tuesday when I emptied it out. I've restarted it today.

About 100 + millimeters (aka 10 centimeters) in a 22.5 liter pail.
EH!!

 

[Gologit]

We had 11.4 inches in 4 days. That's enough.

That's the official NOAA report and not My Folgers can on the back porch method.

 

[Samlock]

I just came back home and now I've got to wade through the posts you people typed last two weeks.

Good to be back!

 

[RandyMac]

I just came back home and now I've got to wade through the posts you people typed last two weeks.

Good to be back!

Good to see ya Sam!

How is the Fascist Fiat?

 

[Samlock]

Good to see ya Sam!

How is the Fascist Fiat?

Right now I don't know, Randy. I should dig her under the snow and take a look, but, nah, that'll wait until tomorrow. Two weeks ago she ran OK. A small hole in the bottom that needs welding before inspection (January). But otherwise I expect that old piece of junk will pass just fine.

 

[RandyMac]

Your journey went well?

 

[Samlock]

Yes, I didn't want to return home and that's a good sign. Avoided seeing any trees in Berlin. Now it's good to get back to business.

 

[RandyMac]

A good balance I'd say.

 

[slowp]

Welcome back Sam!

I find myself getting extremely cranky this winter as the days get shorter. I am sitting by my Happy Light this morning, but that doesn't seem to work. Besides alcohol, what do the people farther north do to keep cheerier?

I have one Scandihoovian Candle left that I think I'll torch off on the 21st.

Should I build a sauna?

We will start skiing next week. Oh, and I'm trying to control eating, which really adds to the crankiness. This may require NOT having beers while up skiing.

I am glad I am not out telling poor old loggers what they are doing wrong! They might start crying.

 

[northmanlogging]

Snow mobiles, four wheelers, a smudge pot (its a thingy that orchards use to warm fruit in cold snaps) some good friends, and enough booze to get a little stoobid...