TheKid
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treemachine, a belated thanks for the explanation. i'm gonna give it a "shot".
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I am going to show you how to wind the reel. I could describe in written words, and post a bunch of pictures, but to really get the 'how-to' of this process it really deserves video. wdanforth gave us this video, but we need closeups of the reel being reeled, from beginning to end, all 180 feet of line, starting with an empty reel drum.
I have the video scheduled to shoot in the morning. I'm actually going to build a reel from beginning to end. Then when loading it with new shotline, I'll crop out that part and post it here. I'll narrate because there's a few nuances that are important to see it and hear it described what's being done and why.
For now, I scraped together the last 8 or 9 years of images, pictures of early shotline reel prototypes, some that worked, some that didn't. Different lines, different reel sizes, all the pics that were taken throughout the years. Even shotline reel images using different lines before the introduction of zing-it. Here is the slideshow, music by permission of the artist, Preston Reed
The video I'll be cooking up for you the new shotline is the fluorescent green stuff from New England Ropes, called DynaGlide.
I have the video scheduled to shoot in the morning. I'm actually going to build a reel from beginning to end. Then when loading it with new shotline, I'll crop out that part and post it here. I'll narrate because there's a few nuances that are important to see it and hear it described what's being done and why.
For now, I scraped together the last 8 or 9 years of images, pictures of early shotline reel prototypes, some that worked, some that didn't. Different lines, different reel sizes, all the pics that were taken throughout the years. Even shotline reel images using different lines before the introduction of zing-it. Here is the slideshow, music by permission of the artist, Preston Reed
The video I'll be cooking up for you the new shotline is the fluorescent green stuff from New England Ropes, called DynaGlide.
Hmmm, slideshow wouldn't open for me.....
Have you used Dynaglide for long? I've heard Fling It is better and last longer. Heard Dynaglide gets fuzzy quicker.
Why the heck would you have been banned....?
Have you used Dynaglide for long? I've heard Fling It is better and last longer. Heard Dynaglide gets fuzzy quicker.
Why the heck would you have been banned....?
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Dang it!rbtree said:
Microsoft just doesn't want to play fair with anyone other than microsoft. That's too bad because the slideshow caries some outrageously difficult guitar work. Also, I sized up the images so they are big and well-detailed.
Roger, I've never used DynaGlide. The upcoming loading of the reel video will be my very first use of DynaGlide. I have been a real big fan of ZingIt since it came out. This line was so far superior to the crap that was out at the time, and it has worked so flawlessly over thousands of throws and many hundreds of BigShots that I've never really felt the need to look for something better. To be quite honest, I keep a couple reels around and I bought the DynaGlide because it was a different color. Still, I look forward to taking it for a test drive.rbtree said:
There was some real offensive language and women being depicted in ways I felt extremely uncomfortable with, especially with my wife popping over my shoulder now and then, wondering if I was lying about being on an arborist forum because of the explicit graphics. I took offense, I was called a whiner and wham, I was out on my butt. Too bad, I really like everyone over there.rbtree said:
Let's put it this way, if I used the same language and posted the same graphic clip here on this forum, I would be banned.
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Great images AND music! I look forward to seeing your build video....
TM
Well, if you havn't used FI, try some. It is far better than ZI....and the word on DG is that it frays.....
I agree about that forum...but it is populated with cool folks who don't judge...much at all.
Gonna have to try again with your linx...
meanwhile, keep an eye out for a new thread with some great local scenery...of flora, fauna of various genera (one of two perhaps a bit inappropriate for all ages...)....and "hydraulics"..
or just check out my flickr site...
Well, if you havn't used FI, try some. It is far better than ZI....and the word on DG is that it frays.....
I agree about that forum...but it is populated with cool folks who don't judge...much at all.
Gonna have to try again with your linx...
meanwhile, keep an eye out for a new thread with some great local scenery...of flora, fauna of various genera (one of two perhaps a bit inappropriate for all ages...)....and "hydraulics"..
or just check out my flickr site...
Tree Machine
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For those of you who are not yet aware of rbtree's special talents, the dude is a master photographer. For years Roger has been posting images throughout Arboristsite threads, images that are so high-quality, there are very few others here who can throw down in such fine photographic fashion. His pictures are to drool over.
Make sure you go see his treeguy collection by clicking here at rb friggin rocks.com
Hey Roger, share with us an image, a macro shot of a full-chisel tooth? I know it's off-topic, but you're part of the inspiration here.
As well, with you contributing to this thread, Mr rbtree, I'm going to have to step it up with the image presentation.
OK, all interested parties across the world (18 at last count), THE VIDEO IS GOING WELL!
Yesterday morning we built one from the ground up on 22 minutes of tape.
Tonight I'm cleaning up the clips, hoping to get it down to 3 or 4 minutes.
I need to drop the sound out because as I pare down the clips, I crop out the instructions I'm voicing also. After all edits I'll need to kill all existing audio and either caption on-screen; that way we can listen to music while watching the reel work OR I voice-over from scratch and you have to listen to my voice.
Personally, I'm tending toward listening to music and read the text on-screen.
I used the brand new shotline winder six different times today, rigging stuff to lower, all from the ground. The neon green is pretty dang cool. The DynaGlide is supple in feel, softish, but not round in profile. It's interesting. I'll have to do at least a hundred throws or shots before I'll have a real opinion. Gimme til the end of the week on that one.
Hey, before I go back to the video editing, here's a shot I found of one of the first reels I did, circa 1998:
Make sure you go see his treeguy collection by clicking here at rb friggin rocks.com
Hey Roger, share with us an image, a macro shot of a full-chisel tooth? I know it's off-topic, but you're part of the inspiration here.
As well, with you contributing to this thread, Mr rbtree, I'm going to have to step it up with the image presentation.
OK, all interested parties across the world (18 at last count), THE VIDEO IS GOING WELL!
Yesterday morning we built one from the ground up on 22 minutes of tape.
Tonight I'm cleaning up the clips, hoping to get it down to 3 or 4 minutes.
I need to drop the sound out because as I pare down the clips, I crop out the instructions I'm voicing also. After all edits I'll need to kill all existing audio and either caption on-screen; that way we can listen to music while watching the reel work OR I voice-over from scratch and you have to listen to my voice.
Personally, I'm tending toward listening to music and read the text on-screen.
I used the brand new shotline winder six different times today, rigging stuff to lower, all from the ground. The neon green is pretty dang cool. The DynaGlide is supple in feel, softish, but not round in profile. It's interesting. I'll have to do at least a hundred throws or shots before I'll have a real opinion. Gimme til the end of the week on that one.
Hey, before I go back to the video editing, here's a shot I found of one of the first reels I did, circa 1998:
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Can you say, "Yummmmmm.....?
Great image, Roger!
Great image, Roger!
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Here is, literally, the first shotline reel I ever made. You can see it is an extension cord reel, with one of the side plates cut off, and * the lip formed to curvature and smoothed and fire-polished.
I did two things right on this model. I got lucky on the first buy and got an ideal reel, with the ideal handle configuration. Not all extension cord reels will work. In fact, most won't.
The second thing is I carefully and time consumingly crafted the deployment lip on the reel. After cutting a very smooth, consistent circle, I used a belt sander and just delicately worked off the 90 degree angle from the saw cut, and smoothed out a top curve. This is KEY, trust me. You could do it with a block of wood and 100 grit sandpaper, or use a woodworking file, but do this part and don't rush through it. Cutting and forming the lip is the ONLY IMPORTANT part of this whole design. You could say the entire success of your reel rests on your lip.
I look at that fat polypro line and shudder to think that was the line of choice in its day. Horrible stuff, horrible.
I did two things right on this model. I got lucky on the first buy and got an ideal reel, with the ideal handle configuration. Not all extension cord reels will work. In fact, most won't.
The second thing is I carefully and time consumingly crafted the deployment lip on the reel. After cutting a very smooth, consistent circle, I used a belt sander and just delicately worked off the 90 degree angle from the saw cut, and smoothed out a top curve. This is KEY, trust me. You could do it with a block of wood and 100 grit sandpaper, or use a woodworking file, but do this part and don't rush through it. Cutting and forming the lip is the ONLY IMPORTANT part of this whole design. You could say the entire success of your reel rests on your lip.
I look at that fat polypro line and shudder to think that was the line of choice in its day. Horrible stuff, horrible.
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After the edits are finished I will get it over to my video guy who can convert it to .wmv for Roger or ANyoNe who can't open a Quicktime file.
Here's a sneek peek of the new reel just after loading the line, I'm tying on the micron biner......
Scots Climber
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Nice set up, I just use fishing handline reels.
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C'mon, pics, details.
ClimbinArbor
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klein makes a nifty little tool, its in the Blue Ridge catalog i believe.
anyone tried it out yet?
anyone tried it out yet?
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Video coming along, 4 minutes so far, in length, getting to the final phases of construction (digitally speaking).
Here are some stills I cropped out of the ever-so-important swivel detail. This is where you get the ability to wind the reel real fast.
Here are some stills I cropped out of the ever-so-important swivel detail. This is where you get the ability to wind the reel real fast.
FanOFatherNash
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can you launch it off that reel ?
You betcha!
I don't use my rudimentary reel--I lost one, and the other is partly broken.....but TM's rig would be the cat's meow....
speaking of TM, I wonder if he's been heard from recently?
I don't use my rudimentary reel--I lost one, and the other is partly broken.....but TM's rig would be the cat's meow....
speaking of TM, I wonder if he's been heard from recently?
Tree Machine
I tried sending you a private message. says your box is full. Are you willing to sell some of these contraptions or just showing how to make them? Do you have the video out yet or did i miss something in the thread where you already put it out.
I tried sending you a private message. says your box is full. Are you willing to sell some of these contraptions or just showing how to make them? Do you have the video out yet or did i miss something in the thread where you already put it out.
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