Timberwolf Verses Super Split process time

[angelo c]

Lol the trees were friendly it was the gas station attendant the wife held me back on then the cars honking at me and some sob flipping me the bird and me trying to chase after him with a 53 foot trailer in tow that I did not like lol

Rope,
Just cause we got funny accents don't mean we can't be understood. Flippin someone the bird 'round these parts is means of saying "hello". The horns honking are attempts at music, we all need more music in our lives.

I spent some three weeks in Atl a few years back and lemme tell ya yall southern folk werent all that hospitable to this yankee either. only difference is that everyone of all yall wanted to fight. we just want to honk horns and say hello. Up North we'll tease ya Southern boys but we'll take you in. Down South it ain't so. We will always be "Yankees" no matter how long we live with yall.

I say we take Mark up on his offer and have a big ol shin dig. He's got a great spread up in the country. You'ld fit right in

 

[ropensaddle]

Rope,
Just cause we got funny accents don't mean we can't be understood. Flippin someone the bird 'round these parts is means of saying "hello". The horns honking are attempts at music, we all need more music in our lives.

I spent some three weeks in Atl a few years back and lemme tell ya yall southern folk werent all that hospitable to this yankee either. only difference is that everyone of all yall wanted to fight. we just want to honk horns and say hello. Up North we'll tease ya Southern boys but we'll take you in. Down South it ain't so. We will always be "Yankees" no matter how long we live with yall.

I say we take Mark up on his offer and have a big ol shin dig. He's got a great spread up in the country. You'ld fit right in

Lol I can't gotta pay for the obahmistake but sounds cool. Really were a pretty laid back bunch here and we have many yanks amongst us but they have to learn not to flip the bird cause here its grounds for a fight. Don't think yall would have a problem.

 

[Cmccul8146]

Originally Posted by Curlycherry1
I'd like to see "The Great Woodsplitter Challenge."


Back in May, 2006, I saw just such a Splitter Challenge at " Sawlex" forrest products demo in SC. Paul was there with a few of his different SS models,as well as several manufacturers of hydraulic splitters. Each entrant had a sheet of plywood with about a 6 inch square hole in it. Rules were simple. Every piece of wood had to pass thru the hole ,or reslpit until it did. Each entrant had the same number & size of rounds. First to finish wins. Paul was there by himself, and easily won hands down. The hydraulic guys all had at least 2 or more people for each machine, & those with 4 way wedges finished dead last. True that they'd get 4 pieces each stroke, but they would be too big to fit thru the hole & need to be resplit. After the "Splitoff" some guy came by the booth where Paul had all his splitters set up & challenged him to split a knotty gnarly ,twisted piece of Sweetgum with it. Paul just grinned, fired up that SS ,and went to work. Had to hit it twice for the 1st split, but after it was halved, one hit on each piece . Made a believer out of me, and that redneck who was trying to belittle the SS in front of his buddies. Hope you guys can get something like that going at a central location & really see what the SS is all about. And no ,I don't own a SS or a hydraulic, but did "homebuild" a SS copy with 102 lb. flywheels & a 3 hp engine. As far as the danger in the speed of these splitters, it's only the IDIOTS that keep their hands on the rounds that will get hurt. No need whatsoever to have either hand near the wood when you engage the gears. Product liability insurance is expensive because the world is full of idiots & people just looking to sue somebody, and that has to be added into the cost. I'm sure it's higher on the super fast SS than it is on some old slow hydraulic machine. If I could afford it, and were going to buy a splitter of any type or brand, SS would be the only one I'd consider.

 

[davec]

As far as the danger in the speed of these splitters, it's only the IDIOTS that keep their hands on the rounds that will get hurt. No need whatsoever to have either hand near the wood when you engage the gears.

I'll disagree slightly. Not every piece wants to sit where you put it - especially on the first split. So a hand - ON TOP - to keep it in place until contact is made is reasonable. But only when you need it to keep it in place until the ram makes contact. Hand on the end like that guy in the video is suicide. He's going to lose a finger or 4, no question. Just a matter of when...

 

[Cmccul8146]

I haven't had any to try to ride up on mine yet Dave, but guess it could happen. Especially if it is not sawed reasonably square . If I have one that's not sawed square, I put the long edge next to the beam, & make sure it's pushed all the way against the wedge before I lift the handle. One thing's for sure, they're dependable, fast, and fun to run.

 

[Oldtimer]

tw-p1 with 4 way is faster than handling a stick:greenchainsaw: of wood four times to get the same results come on guys don't give into the hip faster is not always the answer when it comes to a 4 way. 4 ways are always faster and the least you have to put your hands on the wood is always less labor. labor =money

He's right.

Move up to a TW5-FC with it's 6 second cycle time and auto cycle valves and 6 way wedge....you'll be lightyears ahead of the SS or about any other splitter save perhaps the biggest Built-Rite.

 

[sunfish]

Hydro splitters are good!

Super Split is good!

Which is best? Depends on who you ask.

Will there always be the question, which is best? Yes!

Is there a definitive answer? No!

It's all good

 

[1harlowr]

Hydro splitters are good!

Super Split is good!

Which is best? Depends on who you ask.

Will there always be the question, which is best? Yes!

Is there a definitive answer? No!

It's all good

:agree2:

 

[Curlycherry1]

Hydro splitters are good!
Super Split is good!
Which is best? Depends on who you ask.
Will there always be the question, which is best? Yes!
Is there a definitive answer? No!
It's all good

As a person that develops quality tests for a living I can say unequivically that there ALWAYS is a way to find out what is best. It may cost a fortune and take forever, but it always can be done. At the bare minimum we should be able to form some groups of best, ok, worst, but more importantly dispell some myths that I have seen over the years.

 

[WidowMaker]

First you have qualify "BEST" whats best to you may not be best to me...

 

[Curlycherry1]

First you have qualify "BEST" whats best to you may not be best to me...

That is what we call "voice of the customer."

 

[sunfish]

First you have qualify "BEST" whats best to you may not be best to me...

That's my point

rry1 As a person that develops quality tests for a living I can say unequivically that there ALWAYS is a way to find out what is best. It may cost a fortune and take forever, but it always can be done. At the bare minimum we should be able to form some groups of best, ok, worst, but more importantly dispell some myths that I have seen over the years.

True, enough money and time would work. But like said above...

'Best' might no have been the right word for this discussion. As 'Fastest' was the original question.

I would not want a splitter any faster than a Super Split

 

[samuraijunkie]

This is what I built a few years back 11hp 16gpm pump. Haven't found a log it wont split

 

[sawjunky23]

Way late to this party but what’s the cost of a Timberwolf compared to a SS?

 

[Sandhill Crane]

Move up to a TW5-FC with it's 6 second cycle time and auto cycle valves and 6 way wedge....you'll be lightyears ahead of the SS or about any other splitter save perhaps the biggest Built-Rite.

This is quite an old thread.
Even so, I would disagree that, all things considered a big TW machine is better. I have owned a TW-6, and still own a SS-HD.
SS-HD a few years ago with shipping was $3,200 +
TW-6 w/log lift, 4-way, out feed table was (3 years ago) $10,400 approx.
I noodle what I can not lift. It's not so bad, but it is a very small percentage of my overall volume.
Depends too, whether your splitting for a boiler or stove wood.
If splitting for stove wood, two guys on each machine, the SS would most likely work you less. One guy noodling, one guy splitting.
If splitting for boiler wood, the TW will shine.
Now if you add PowerSplit, or a box wedge splitter to the party things change.

 

[Sandhill Crane]

Opps!