Today's pawning Jonsered, Poulan 306A, Husky 61

[fearofpavement]

Well, after the comments I received on the Jonsered 2172 I had posted about a couple days ago, I went back to that pawn shop to take another look. On closer inspection, I noticed that the chain brake handle is missing. I tried the brake and it works, so just the handle and attaching hardware is absent. Also, the choke knob is broken off. There is a little stub sticking out but it requires a tool to pull the choke. Also the chain is pretty much used up. It is just about back to the witness line so maybe one more sharpening, wouldn't be surprised if some teeth were broken, I didn't closely inspect the chain as that's a minor deal to me. The bar is a Jonsered branded Total 20". On the drive link of the chain, there was a 72 so I am assuming it is an Oregon 3/8" x .050 gauge. Correct? If so, I have that chain's equivalent in stock on rolls. So anyway, I take the saw outside the shop and fire it up. Had the "ning ning ning" sound of a 70's dirt bike. I assume that is normal. It seemed to run fine and wanted to cut some wood but none available. I made an offer and after some negotiation came home with it. That's as much as I know at this time.

Now, they also had another Jonsered there. This would be the second Jonsered I have ever seen. It was a 2138C and seemed really heavy. I am assuming it is in the 40cc class? That one seemed to be in pretty good condition and had a 16" bar if I recall correctly. What are those worth? They had a $150 price on it. Considering they usually list the junky Homelights and Poulans for $70 to $100 that doesn't seem too bad. Not looking for a little saw though.

They also had a Stihl HS74 hedge clipper. That is interesting to me because the one I have only cuts pencil size stuff. This one cuts thumb size stuff. However, they're asking $200 which puts it out of my price range...

I looked at the Poulan 306A and it was the single muffler screw and I ran it. The bucking spike was missing and I noticed there is a crack in the metal where the bucking spike would attach. (physical damage ) That sorta ruined it for me as I see this as a collector saw as opposed to a cutting saw. I would've flipped it if I could've gotten it cheap enough. It ran fine (smoked a bit) That one is $79.99 and at a different pawn shop.

The last saw of interest was a Husky 61. This saw seems intact but the price was $230 so I didn't look farther (didn't run it) It has the wire chain brake handle.

 

[fearofpavement]

Did an online search and located a Jonsered dealer about 20 miles away. I hope to head over that way soon to see what they have. It is in a little out of the way place that I have never been to. Looking forward to putting the Jonsered into wood. Too bad I don't have any logs...

 

[Chris J.]

Congrats on the Jonsered CS2172! I think that you were wise to pass on the 306A & 61 at those prices, & I wouldn't get too excited about the 2138C.

 

[lmalterna]

I seem to have rotten luck finding deals at pawns... last one I went into had Husky 350's at 275.00 and MS180's at 200.00-- all looked like that had been drug behind a truck on a dirt road. Prices seemed pretty firm!!!!!!!!!!

Bill

 

[greendohn]

that Jonsered retails in the , what, $750 to $800 range...I just paid $70.00 for a new 20" Total bar for my 2171.

 

[fearofpavement]

cleaned it up

Today I cleaned up the Jonsered after trying to buck a piece of firewood. It was a quarter round piece of dry Loblolly pine and it wouldn't even cut it. Barely made sawdust. So I take the saw to the shop, inspect the chain and determined it had been "abused" by something but what was interesting is that the saw chain was sharpened nearly to the witness marks and the rakers had never been touched. (a 10 power magnifying loupe confirmed this) So I put a straight edge on it and the rakers were even with or above the teeth. Hmmmm. Put on a new chain I had in stock.

From studying this saw's condition and 2010 vintage I am about 90% sure it was acquired for the tornado that went through the area a year ago causing extensive damage (tornado was wide and on the ground for about 40 miles) The bar appears to have never been cut with on the top. ie, not too many up cuts and never turned over. There was a bit of burned area on the bar about 7" long and some corresponding burring which I easily removed. The bar and chain are likely original and the bar still has most of the "Jonsered" writing on both sides. No wear on the tip.

I checked the compression with engine luke warm. It made 170psi in both tries. (is that about right?) Tried to see the cylinder through the spark plug hole, not much visible but looked clean, nice tan/brown plug insulator. I tightened up the inner bucking spike, checked a few other screws, checked the air filter (looked clean) and generally cleaned the thing up to "operational" cleanliness level. I determined that the saw is useable with the broken choke knob so the only thing I need now is the handle for the chain brake. It was removed for whatever reason and of course the attaching hardware is missing too. Oh, I went back to that piece of firewood with the new chain. Smiles! Can't wait to try it in a 20" piece of oak.

 

[mdavlee]

Well I'm glad it worked out for you on the 2172. The compression sounds great so I'm sure the piston and cylinder are in good shape. A brake handle shouldn't be too expensive so you'll come out fine on it.

 

[struggle]

I don't see any pictures:msp_sad:

 

[fearofpavement]

There are no photos because the cameras were at the regional track meet where my wife was taking pictures of my son taking first place in the 1,600 meter. He runs the 3,200 tomorrow evening. Maybe I can get some pics tomorrow.

 

[Chris J.]

You're posting in two threads about the same saw, that makes it kind of hard to keep track of what's happening.

Try spike60 (site sponsor) for your chainbrake parts or complete cover.

 

[shwinecat]

I also posted information on your other thread where you could get parts.

 

[SawTroll]

You're posting in two threads about the same saw, that makes it kind of hard to keep track of what's happening.

Try spike60 (site sponsor) for your chainbrake parts or complete cover.

Yep, a lesson right there - too many new threads are started, on topics already under discussion.....:rolleyes2:

...spike60 is a good suggestion, if the local dealer can't help - but the cover has nothing to do with the brake in this case.....

 

[Chris J.]

Yep, a lesson right there - too many new threads are started, on topics already under discussion.....:rolleyes2:

...spike60 is a good suggestion, if the local dealer can't help - but the cover has nothing to do with the brake in this case.....

Yes, but it's possible a new clutch cover complete with chain brake might make more sense than repairing the damaged CB.....OK, I admit that I need to re-read the description of the CB damage .

 

[RiverRat2]

Yep, a lesson right there - too many new threads are started, on topics already under discussion.....:rolleyes2:

...spike60 is a good suggestion, if the local dealer can't help - but the cover has nothing to do with the brake in this case.....

Niko, Maybe he doesnt realize that the saw has an inner clutch so the chain brake handle isnt attached to the PTO side cover,,,:bang::cool2:

Yes, but it's possible a new clutch cover complete with chain brake might make more sense than repairing the damaged CB.....OK, I admit that I need to re-read the description of the CB damage .

Have another cup of coffee Chris,,,!!! LOLOL

 

[Chris J.]

Maybe he doesnt realize that the saw has an inner clutch so the chain brake handle isnt attached to the PTO side cover,,,:bang::cool2:

Niko & Rick, thank y'all for pointing out my ignorance, I'll :taped: now.

 

[RiverRat2]

Niko & Rick, thank y'all for pointing out my ignorance, I'll :taped: now.

No Problemo BuddY!!!!!:hmm3grin2orange::cool2:

 

[SawTroll]

Niko & Rick, thank y'all for pointing out my ignorance, I'll :taped: now.

:cool2:

 

[Chris J.]

No Problemo BuddY!!!!!:hmm3grin2orange::cool2:

:cool2:

 

[fearofpavement]

I seem to have rotten luck finding deals at pawns... last one I went into had Husky 350's at 275.00 and MS180's at 200.00-- all looked like that had been drug behind a truck on a dirt road. Prices seemed pretty firm!!!!!!!!!!

Bill

Most pawn shops are way overpriced on their stuff in general but I still go to them because if I see something I like I'll make an offer and see what happens. About 50% success on them taking my offers. I have offered as little as half of their listed price and had them take it. There is one pawnshop that has the majority of their stuff priced at or above retail new prices. Don't know how they ever sell anything. I guess ignorant people?

 

[fearofpavement]

Sorry about the two threads. They were intended to be two different subjects. One was trying to gather info about a Jonsered I had seen and then the other was about multiple pawn shop finds and after the purchase of the 2172 they sorta got blended together. My bad.

I will let the other one wither.

Sawtroll, based on your post, I gather that the brake handle from a Husky 372 will NOT fit the 2172? If that is the case, guess I will visit my "not very local" Jonsered dealer and see if they have what I need. I didn't find anything doing online searches. If this saw becomes a pain to support I will send it down the road. In fact, I am so wanting to get this saw assembled I may pack it into the van and go find that dealer right now. Of course I am supposed to be working but I guess I have some comp time coming and I am sick of doing paperwork and it is too wet to top a row of pine trees that need a height reduction on the end of the airstrip...