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Tree Damage From Crop Spraying
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If you use a well you should get that water tested. Ag chemicals are surely in your ground water.
ValleyForge
Liberty Farms
How so?
How does it get in, streams? I cant imagine it going through all the sand straight down?
Usually by surface runoff.
Sounds right.
ValleyForge
Liberty Farms
the minuscule amounts farmers use has little to no impact on groundwater in aquifers used for wells. It’s a scare tactic, not saying the poster who said that is trying to scare people, he more likely is just reacting to the settled science they feed us.
No, they don't say it's a problem. They are telling farmers what may happen under certain conditions with certain herbicides or mixtures. I get all that stuff from Penn state in a monthly crops report. If certain weed killers were causing a state wide problem I'm sure they would put a stop use on it. I was at my chemical dealer yesterday and a guy was inquiring about a certain herbicide for soybeans. My dealer grilled the guy about what type of beans he had planted and if he was sure the beans were tolerant to that herbicide. After the guy left my guy told me every year a couple of guys come in and used the wrong stuff on their beans and it killed them.
No well water on my property... there is a well house and I had someone check it out years ago. He said he recalled checking it the last time, when it dried up... likely from use further on up the line.
"A problem" was my paraphrasing of this, "Sometimes herbicides can cause crop injury especially in early season."
I think causing crop injury can be a problem. Don't you?
ValleyForge
Liberty Farms
You shouldn’t drink from well houses,,springs or shallow wells. They draw upon the top of the water table and if other homes are around you, you’re drinking their septage since it is less dense than water and forms the top layers of the water table.
I call it a "well house" but it's just a small concrete shed covering the well pump?
Idk the technical terms for it. I know my grandparents at one time had well water.
We sprayed back at the township. It actually had nothing to specifically do with the right of way. More so lazy property owners that wouldn't mow their property that was close to the road. Anything that could fall into the road became a road hazard then our (township) problem. Road bank mowing, weedwacking, and spraying (twice a year) was done to help mitigate the possibility of weed/grass/bamboo/trees effecting the roadway. This actually cost us a lot of time and tax money to do. 65 miles of road 2 sides of the road every week all sumer. Then weedwacking around signs ect. It was a God send when they allowed us to start spraying again. (Contracted out, but one of us had to go with) basically some sort of pre emergent, and round up. Really the goal wasn't to kill everything off but stunt its growth, save the bamboo. Lots of bamboo. Can't remember what they sprayed that with, but I'll tell you after 2 applications it would start to die back.
We did honor and distribute the no spray, no mow signs, but the land owner was responsible for the road side maintenance, and if they didn't take care of it they ended up getting fined. Personally I think everyone should keep after their own property as it's not the townships job to take care of your property, and is a massive waste of time and resources that should be spent repairing roads. I feel the same way about the tree trimming we did during early spring and fall.
All residents were notified at least twice in writing, via mailed letters, posted on the townships website and social media pages of all mowing, spraying and tree trimming activities. They still acted like they didn't know what was going on.
But, there's a definite line between the right-of-way and private property.
Around here, they mow, maybe twice in the growing season, idk exactly, but it's not often.
Just last week a crew was weed-eating signs, utility poles, and what-not.
They also do an herbicide spraying.
Just this morning, I was out there clearing the bank on my side of the right-of-way where a hickory fell a few years ago.
But, I will not mow the right-of-way. I leave a 2' swath between my yard and the road.
No there's no line. The right away is your property. All the right of way allows is access. It's still private property. It's still the residents responsibility to keep up their property. Years ago this was expected, people got nasty grams in the mail, or a supervisor would stop by and ask you why you haven't kept up with your property. Heck back on the farm we had several miles of road bank. Every weekend I had to mow it, and there better had not been a blade of grass on the road when I was done. People have just gotten lazy. I only worked at the township for a short time but it really opened my eyes to a lot of things. This does include the poor allocation of tax funds, but it was nice to see the inner workings and actually get to know and understand what goes into a road department.
Sorry for the snow ball, got off topic. I do hope you get everything sorted out with your trees.
If it's my property why does the highway dept. send out road crews to spray, weed eat and mow all along the highway?
I can see your point in subdivisions, or within city limits, but I think it's different on state roads.
As a side note, I was going to correct my earlier post, I DO mow to the road on the other side of my driveway where it is level to the road, but not around the utility pole, in the ditch, or on the bank.
I do see people mowing on banks and in ditches, but the county crews come along anyway so why risk a flat tire on my mower, or hitting some retread wire? And that's happened, and why I won't do it anymore.
I kind of wish they would stop doing it though... 30 years ago the roadsides were beautiful with cornflower, orange daylilies, Queen Ann's lace, floribunda roses, and other wild flowers.
Now, it's all but gone...
Here ya go
"Description. This work shall consist of mowing of the rights-of-way for vegetation control in accordance with the Plans, Specifications and as directed by the Engineer. A mowing cycle shall be one complete mowing of the areas along state highways and interstates designated within this contract and shall be completed within twenty (20) working days that are suitable for mowing. "
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/tdot/construction/special-provisions/Const-806.pdf
In fact, now that I think of it, one year the mowers scalped the grass and dug a rut in the yard, just above the bank.
I complained to the engineer and he sent someone out to level it. They even tossed some grass seed and a little straw on top.
No problem, not really off-topic. This is the most useful document I've seen lately and I wouldn't have found it if you hadn't mentioned the right-of-ways.
"Description. This work shall consist of mowing of the rights-of-way for vegetation control in accordance with the Plans, Specifications and as directed by the Engineer. A mowing cycle shall be one complete mowing of the areas along state highways and interstates designated within this contract and shall be completed within twenty (20) working days that are suitable for mowing. "
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/tdot/construction/special-provisions/Const-806.pdf
In fact, now that I think of it, one year the mowers scalped the grass and dug a rut in the yard, just above the bank.
I complained to the engineer and he sent someone out to level it. They even tossed some grass seed and a little straw on top.
No problem, not really off-topic. This is the most useful document I've seen lately and I wouldn't have found it if you hadn't mentioned the right-of-ways.
So you are saying there has never been a circumstance where one farmer negatively impacted another farmer's crop with a herbicide "around there". Where is your "around here"??? The 2 adjacent farms? Township? County?
Secondly, the problem isn't a farmer hurting his own plants...it is hurting other's plants. That is what off target means.
I'm not even sure what you are trying to say is ridiculous??? In the post you quoted, my "first point" was
The farmer is still responsible for keeping their product from impacting off target plants.
Are you saying they bear no responsibility for drift??? If not, what are you proposing is ridiculous?
ValleyForge
Liberty Farms
you are pretty old then?
you still haven't defined "these parts".
Nor did you explain what was so rediculous about stating a farmer is responsible for drift. I get that YOU don't experience or cause drift problems. The farmers local (whatever that means) don't cause drift. But that doesn't mean they wouldn't be liable if they did. It just means they don't cause problems...which is GREAT. Most are that way, and that is the way it should be. But that doesn't mean some aren't negligent or that accidents don't ever happen anywhere.
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