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That looks like a stink bug.

Only if you limit your understanding of insects to the order of Hemiptera

"True bugs" consist of a lot more species than stink bugs. "Stink bugs" should be more appropriately called "sheild bugs", due to the shape of their carapace.

Some folks call this one a stink bug, too, but it is more appropriately called an assassin bug:
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Yeah, they smell bad when you grab 'em too. This one, however, kills off the other stink bugs, no matter how bad they smell. Wasps, bees, spiders, too. It will eat anything it can grab.
 
Only if you limit your understanding of insects to the order of Hemiptera

"True bugs" consist of a lot more species than stink bugs.
Bronze orange bugs are stinkbugs and they are around in large numbers on citrus trees in early summer – particularly on orange trees. I was outside picking up the last oranges for the year, which had fallen under my tree, when I sniffed the distinct smell of stinkbug
https://gardendrum.com/2014/01/04/b... are stinkbugs,the distinct smell of stinkbug.
 
That looks like a stink bug.
Yep...we call them that too. They can spray/squirt some chemicals from their butts...and it stinks.

But I've seen some other bugs they call stink bugs in the states. Smaller? And almost swarms of them? Ours don't behave like that. They just (mostly) get onto the trees, and they can do a lot of damage. Maybe not kill the trees, but it won't grow or produce much. The suck all the life out of any new growth.

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"the defensive chemicals of M. sulciventris are known for being among the most debilitating to vertebrates, which is likely a defence specifically aimed against birds. They can cause damage to human skin and even cause temporary blindness if sprayed into the eyes."

Yep, it stinks. And they can spray from a good distance...they'll turn, aim, and spray.

I hate the little suckers.

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"the defensive chemicals of M. sulciventris are known for being among the most debilitating to vertebrates, which is likely a defence specifically aimed against birds. They can cause damage to human skin and even cause temporary blindness if sprayed into the eyes."

Yep, it stinks. And they can spray from a good distance...they'll turn, aim, and spray.

I hate the little suckers.

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I hate them, too.
Their only redeeming qualities are they are loud and slow - you can hear them coming and have time to duck. :laughing:
They are terrible around here, I think, because of the corn/soy crops.
Mostly only see them in the fall when they cluster to hibernate and in the spring when they come out.

I'm not so sure about the "debilitating" part of the description - I know the little wrens around here love to eat them - and so does my new pup. :dizzy:
 
I hate them, too.
Their only redeeming qualities are they are loud and slow - you can hear them coming and have time to duck. :laughing:
They are terrible around here, I think, because of the corn/soy crops.
Mostly only see them in the fall when they cluster to hibernate and in the spring when they come out.

I'm not so sure about the "debilitating" part of the description - I know the little wrens around here love to eat them - and so does my new pup. :dizzy:
Eeeww! Eat them? I don't think anything eats them here. The spray can take your breath away if you get a faceful. Our dogs used to get the smell in their fur just walking near the trees.

But eating them? Uggh...can't imagine that. I like bees and spiders etc, so I just used the oil and pyrethrum. Wasn't perfect, and needed regular treatment, but it was enough to control them, even if not eliminate them.

Do yours fly much? Ours will fly, but only if pressured (shaking the branches). Mostly they'll just cling to the tree.
 
Eeeww! Eat them? I don't think anything eats them here. The spray can take your breath away if you get a faceful. Our dogs used to get the smell in their fur just walking near the trees.

But eating them? Uggh...can't imagine that. I like bees and spiders etc, so I just used the oil and pyrethrum. Wasn't perfect, and needed regular treatment, but it was enough to control them, even if not eliminate them.

Do yours fly much? Ours will fly, but only if pressured (shaking the branches). Mostly they'll just cling to the tree.

Sure folks eat 'em. I've even posted recipe books on the topic. Oh! You are only referring to the bugs you call stink bugs. Unknown to many, the common cicada comes from the same clan, but lacks the unpleasant smell.

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"What do cicadas taste like?
I’m tempted to say they taste just like chicken, but they do have a nutty flavor and a nice crunch when sautéed in olive oil with a few seasonings tossed in for good measure. Old Bay seasoning is always a winner. However, I’m not so sure you can eat them without accompaniments. Go ahead and sauté them for a minute or two and top a nice dish of leafy greens with some crispy cicadas.​
But please don’t use Ranch dressing. After all, they’ve been waiting 17 years for this big dance, and you shouldn’t humiliate them one last time. A bit of extra virgin olive oil, some fresh lemon juice and a few cracks of black pepper will do just fine."​
https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/buckeyebites-cooking-with-cicadas

Recipe for Cicada Stir-Fry (Courtesy of Cicada-Licious: Cooking and Enjoying Periodical Cicadas)​

Ingredients:
  • 1 onion, minced
  • 2 tablespoons fresh coriander (cilantro), chopped
  • 1 tablespoon fresh ginger, minced
  • 3/4 cup sliced carrots
  • 3/4 cup chopped cauliflower and/or broccoli
  • 1 can water chestnuts
  • 3/4 cup bean sprouts
  • 3/4 cup snow peas
  • 40 blanched newly hatched (teneral) cicadas
Directions:
  • Capture cicadas at night as they emerge from the ground.
  • Blanche for 1 minute in boiling water. They can now be stored in freezer or used immediately in recipes.
  • In a wok or other suitable pan, heat a couple tablespoons of vegetable oil. Add ingredients in the order listed above when those in the most recent addition are partially cooked.
  • Serve over whole-grain rice and add soy sauce to taste Yield: 4 main course servings

Good enough, apparently, to write cookbooks on the topic.

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A 2nd opinion on cicada snacks:
http://www.waldeneffect.org/blog/What_does_a_cicada_taste_like__63__/
This guy makes them sound good enough to try. 9 out 10, they are said to resemble lobster tail without the fishiness.

"the U.S. Food and Drug Administration tweeted to warn those allergic to seafood about eating cicadas, as the insects share a family relation to shrimp and lobsters."

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Sugar-roasted cicadas & greens.
 
Sure folks eat 'em. I've even posted recipe books on the topic. Oh! You are only referring to the bugs you call stink bugs. Unknown to many, the common cicada comes from the same clan, but lacks the unpleasant smell.
Sure, I'll eat a steak, and cows belong to the same kingdom...lol.

Just that specific one. The bronze-orange bug. They start off tiny and green, get bigger and turn bright orange, then at full size they turn brown...almost black.

I don't know you could eat these...you'd have to remove/neutralise the spray. It's really noxious and would be entirely inedible, not to mention the taste. Like eating chips with paint thinner and ammonia.

Other insects...yeah, not very appealing, but edible I guess. Given that, or being vegetarian, I might go vegetarian.
 
Eeeww! Eat them? I don't think anything eats them here. The spray can take your breath away if you get a faceful. Our dogs used to get the smell in their fur just walking near the trees.

But eating them? Uggh...can't imagine that. I like bees and spiders etc, so I just used the oil and pyrethrum. Wasn't perfect, and needed regular treatment, but it was enough to control them, even if not eliminate them.

Do yours fly much? Ours will fly, but only if pressured (shaking the branches). Mostly they'll just cling to the tree.
She eats EVERYTHING she can cram in her pie hole! She's three months old and like a child, everything goes in the mouth!
I think her favorite, by far, are cat turds.
When I walk her, it's like a treasure hunt for her. She knows where the cats go (under the trees mostly) and can sniff them out. I try to pull her away, but it's useless. She's relentless in the turd hunting.
:baba:

As to the stink bugs, they mostly crawl. Except in the spring and fall when they are swarming.
One year they were HORRIBLE on my back porch - I was swatting them with a flyswatter , literally, non-stop for hours and still they kept coming.
The next year they weren't as bad and I used a large plastic cup about half filled with water and dish soap. So simple - just hold the cup under the bug, tap it with a swatter, and they fall right into the cup without a fight. After a day or so, dump them out.
 
Sure folks eat 'em. I've even posted recipe books on the topic. Oh! You are only referring to the bugs you call stink bugs. Unknown to many, the common cicada comes from the same clan, but lacks the unpleasant smell.
What is wrong with you today??
It's obvious we are talking about STINK BUGS.
 
As I mentioned, not everything you call a stink bug, is a stink bug. Some stink bugs are "stink bugs" even when they don't stink. Not every bug that stinks is a stink bug, too.

It's just me being me.

We might as well post a picture of a guy spraying water somewhere and not expect you to comment unfavorably on the herbicide application industry.

Lighten up! Did I not answer your question about the nursery spraying their trees?
 
As I mentioned, not everything you call a stink bug, is a stink bug. Some stink bugs are "stink bugs" even when they don't stink. Not every bug that stinks is a stink bug, too.

It's just me being me.

We might as well post a picture of a guy spraying water somewhere and not expect you to comment unfavorably on the herbicide application industry.

Lighten up! Did I not answer your question about the nursery spraying their trees?
:wtf:
Something is wrong with you today. Checked your blood pressure lately? Blood sugar off, maybe?
 
Speak of the devil... just spotted on on my front door trying to get out.

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Ha! Looks exactly like the ones here. Is it literally the same bug, or a very similar/related one? Green, then orange, then brown?

Ours never swarm anywhere, never really come in the house. Just on the trees.
 
Ha! Looks exactly like the ones here. Is it literally the same bug, or a very similar/related one? Green, then orange, then brown?
No, I've seen only brown stink bugs.

Ours never swarm anywhere, never really come in the house. Just on the trees.
Maybe you don't have the freezing temps in the winter we have here and yours don't hibernate?
 
:wtf:
Something is wrong with you today. Checked your blood pressure lately? Blood sugar off, maybe?

No, just me being me.

I still recall the photo of salt spray damage on a row of conifers. You were convinced that it looked like herbicide damage. That conversation then turned into a cascade of people from southern states with no experience with salted roads telling me how wrong I was. Plus Bill, who will generally try to do that out of spite.

That being said, I explained that the insects with the "shield" shaped carapace should be called "sheild bug" instead. This is just my way of being stubbornly consistent about being a stickler for facts, and your way of being stubbornly contrary.
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Maybe you don't have the freezing temps in the winter we have here and yours don't hibernate?

Some of the "true bugs", notably the boxelder bug, are notorious for overwintering as adults. They find a defect in the seals of your house, then slowly crawl inside during autumn. Then they swarm outside on a warm day, presenting themselves in swarms to breed. Sometimes they just wander around inside, hoping nobody kills them before spring emergence. Other "stink bugs" have other methods of surviving winter, like laying durable eggs.

I posted a pic of a boxelder bug a few pages back.
By the way, the boxelder bug isn't particularly smelly.
 
Some of the "true bugs", notably the boxelder bug, are notorious for overwintering as adults. They find a defect in the seals of your house, then slowly crawl inside during autumn. Then they swarm outside on a warm day, presenting themselves in swarms to breed. Sometimes they just wander around inside, hoping nobody kills them before spring emergence. Other "stink bugs" have other methods of surviving winter, like laying durable eggs.

I posted a pic of a boxelder bug a few pages back.
By the way, the boxelder bug isn't particularly smelly.
Once again, interesting, but not relevant to the stink bugs we are talking about.
 

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